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To: bagster
Why did your hero Gorka get fired? Answer me that, ten we can talk.

(You were responding to someone else in that comment, but it's an interesting question, I'll try to answer it. Gorka is not my hero, BTW, but neither am I a huge detractor of him.)

Like a lot of departures in Washington it's a judgement call between whether the person was fired, or resigned. I did a ton of research on a previous list you gave me of people you claimed had been fired and I could only substantiate it for about 1/3, and felt the evidence suggested another third probably were, and the final third there wasn't any outward sign of it. People do leave low paying government jobs to take high paying jobs at major corporations like WalMart, to cite one that I remember, without being fired.

So, maybe here we are going to be in the murky middle where we can't say for sure if push came to shove, or not.

The Federalist presents Gorka's side of the story, pretty clearly. Here's the article by Mollie Hemmingway, who is a good reporter. Breaking: Sebastian Gorka Resigns From Trump Administration

AUGUST 25, 2017 By Mollie Hemingway

Sebastian Gorka is resigning his post as Deputy Assistant to President Trump, multiple sources familiar with the situation have told The Federalist.

In a blunt resignation letter, the national security and counterterrorism expert expressed dissatisfaction with the current state of the Trump administration. “[G]iven recent events, it is clear to me that forces that do not support the MAGA promise are – for now – ascendant within the White House,” Gorka wrote. “As a result, the best and most effective way I can support you, Mr. President, is from outside the People’s House.” Gorka’s letter expressed unhappiness with the direction the Trump administration’s foreign policy has taken, as signaled by the president’s recent speech on Afghanistan:

“Regrettably, outside of yourself, the individuals who most embodied and represented the policies that will ‘Make America Great Again,’ have been internally countered, systematically removed, or undermined in recent months. This was made patently obvious as I read the text of your speech on Afghanistan this week…

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Gorka’s tenure at the White House was marked by unusually vociferous attacks against him and his family by left-leaning media organizations and the Democratic Party. This includes personal attacks against his wife, mother, and son.

A source close to the White House said of his decision, “This was more or less going to be a done deal when Bannon submitted his resignation. Not because he didn’t have a protector, but because there is no point in having your life ruined every day if you’re not going to get much accomplished.” The same source said that what did change after Bannon left was that anti-Bannon factions began erecting bureaucratic road blocks to undermine Gorka internally. In his letter, Gorka made clear that he believes in the promise of the Trump presidency despite being concerned about its present direction.

“Your presidency will prove to be one of the most significant events in modern American politics. November the 8th was the result of decades during which the political and media elites felt that they knew better than the people who elect them into office. They do not, and the MAGA platform allowed their voices to be heard,” he wrote, adding, “Millions of people believe in, and have chosen, you and your vision of Making America Great Again. They will help eventually rebalance this temporary reality.”

UPDATE: In response to this story, an anonymous White House official reportedly said, “Sebastian Gorka did not resign, but I can confirm he no longer works at the White House.”

Here is Fortune Magazine's coverage, which is more neutral, acknowledging the ambiguity of both the "resigned" and "fired" claims:

Sebastian Gorka, Fired or Not, Is Out of the White House

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Trump ally Roger Stone echoed Gorka’s assessment to Politico, saying “the seven-day-in-May crowd is making steady progress and trying to convert the Trump administration to George Soros-style globalism” and, in an apparent threat to the man he helped elect, that “I can find another candidate for 2020 who can win the primary, believe me.”

Those forces prominently include new Chief of Staff John Kelly, who according to some reports revoked Gorka’s security clearance on Friday, while Gorka was on vacation. Gorka’s ouster also reflects the ascendancy of new Trump national security adviser H.R. McMaster, who appears to have strongly influenced Trump’s new interventionist stance on Afghanistan. That stance reversed Trump’s campaign pledges to end American involvement there, a shift also cited by Gorka in his parting letter.

Finally, the NY Times, reports that Gorka was forced out. Based of course on "two anonymous sources". Sebastian Gorka Is Forced Out as White House Adviser, Officials Say

Sebastian Gorka, an outspoken adviser to President Trump and lightning rod for controversy, has been forced out of his position at the White House, two administration officials said on Friday.

One of the officials said that the president’s chief of staff, John F. Kelly, had telegraphed his lack of interest in keeping Mr. Gorka during internal discussions over the last week.

Mr. Gorka, a deputy assistant to the president, had been on vacation for at least the last two weeks, that official said.

His departure is the latest in a string of them since Mr. Kelly, a retired Marine general, took over as the White House chief of staff last month. Mr. Gorka criticized Rex W. Tillerson, the secretary of state, in a public show of disrespect that chafed Mr. Kelly’s sense of order, according to one senior administration official.

Here's my take: There was a power struggle in the White House between Bannon and those in his circle and Kelly, when Kelly took over. Kelly forced people out to consolidate power, or if you prefer, to make the White House function in a more orderly manner.

It's certainly true that the new crew: Kelly, McMasters and TIllerson had a more internationalist / globalist outlook than the group that was purged (Bannon, Gorka).

What's interesting is that over time Trump has had to fire a lot of the victorious Kelly faction.


212 posted on 04/10/2019 1:23:37 PM PDT by Jack Black ("If you believe in things that you don't understand then you suffer" - "Superstition",Stevie Wonder)
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To: Jack Black
Again, you are overthinking it.

If Gorka was a 'TRUE MAGA' he wouldn't be gone. That's just simple mathematics. Unless you believe Trump himself isn't "true MAGA".

In conclusion, Gorka is not a TRUE MAGA or he's still be at the White House.

Case closed.

See, soya? Less CAN be more.


226 posted on 04/10/2019 1:37:01 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Jack Black
is there a reason you don't like him?

Oh wait. I missed that line (I don't read your entire diatribes carefully, once I get the gist0.

No, I actually like Gorka. But his anti-Q rhetoric is suspicious and tends to give him derp status, in my book.

Why would he even comment on it, you gotta ask yourself. Or don't ask yourself if he furthers your agenda.

Which is what you people do, amirite?


230 posted on 04/10/2019 1:39:59 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Jack Black

Jack, good research. I’m not totally convinced in anything based on the sources.

I have to ask your opinion on McMaster though. What do you think about the timing of his father’s death and his sudden departure from the Trump agenda which resulted either in his firing, or resignation?

I’m not playing ‘gotcha’. My personal opinion is that his father was killed to send a message to him and he immediately complied with people that wanted him to change.

I think his father’s death was suspicious and not properly investigated.

Thoughts?


354 posted on 04/10/2019 4:23:50 PM PDT by KitJ (Shall not be infringed...)
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