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To: Fiji Hill
The loss of Egypt and North Africa were hard - those were the bread basket areas (incredible as it may seem today)

Manzikert was hard yes, but terminality was caused by the IV Crusade diverting to attack and conquer Constantinople in 1204 (note: i'm Catholic but I still see this as a mistake, up there with the Crimean war)

36 posted on 04/02/2019 1:06:40 AM PDT by Cronos (Brexit: leave means leave, even if it ruins you. England-Wales out of the EU!!)
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To: Cronos
Manzikert was hard yes, but terminality was caused by the IV Crusade diverting to attack and conquer Constantinople in 1204 (note: i'm Catholic but I still see this as a mistake, up there with the Crimean war)

The Fourth Crusade did, indeed, quicken the demise of the Roman Empire. There are some historians who argue that the Roman Empire actually ended in 1204 and not 1453.

40 posted on 04/02/2019 8:15:29 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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