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To: nitzy
Calling me a "psycho" doesn't help your argument; especially not when it is blatantly obvious that you are as immoral and you are uneducated.

I explained to you what mail fraud is and you ignored it or lack the ability to understand simple English prose.

The rules for taking the SAT and the ACT are set by a private company; the ones who write and distribute those exams. It has always been illegal to pay someone else to take them for the student/give the test taker the answers/correct the wrong answers. When they are caught, they and the student have always been prosecuted. And the mail fraud comes in, with this, because the tests and scores are sent through the U.S. Mail!

Your examples are patently ridiculous, as well as stupid!

You'd only fore a high level employee who took a bribe, but not a low level one? WHY? Stealing and bribery are stealing and/or bribery no matter who does it!

If you take a bribe/bend the rules for an obese person, who wants to join your gym and that person gets injured, due to the weight issue, that person will sue you! But, as I said, that example is ruefully ignorant and stupid!

What difference does it make if the college or university is a private one or a public institution? The rules were still broken, the bribery went on, the mail fraud, which is a Federal offense is still a Federal offense, and many private colleges and universities accept Federal grants and other types of money from the government!

Stanford, Yale, and Harvard are private institutions.

USC is a public one.

All of these schools are now embroiled in this scandal.

That you are having so many problems understanding this and the info supplied to you, speaks very loudly about YOU!

33 posted on 03/15/2019 2:31:01 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

USC is a private institution. It’s the University of southern california. The public ones are all University of cal at-— And Cal state university


36 posted on 03/15/2019 2:40:02 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (I maUse Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: nopardons

They committed or attempted to commit fraud using mail or wire communications.

The fraud does have to have been successful. Though here in the cases I know about it seems to have been successful.

Also, there seems to probable cause for conspiracy to commit fraud + wire fraud + mail fraud. Again, for a conspiracy charge the underlying crime does not have to been completed or proved — just one overt act towards the completion of the underlying crime.

“To prove wire fraud government must show (1) scheme to defraud by means of false pretenses, (2) defendant’s knowing and willful participation in scheme with intent to defraud, and (3) use of interstate wire communications in furtherance of scheme” United States v. Maxwell, 920 F.2d 1028, 1035 (D.C. Cir. 1990)


39 posted on 03/15/2019 2:55:15 PM PDT by 13foxtrot
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To: nopardons
Calling me a "psycho" doesn't help your argument; especially not when it is blatantly obvious that you are as immoral and you are uneducated

Are you of the impression that all immoral acts are illegal????

They are not.

Why is cheating on an SAT illegal, while cheating on any other test that any other private organization would give would NOT be illegal? What gives the SAT or ACT the force of law?

Personally, I am very carefully in my dealings so that I don't even have appearance of impropriety in my actions. I tip 20%. I return any extra change I am given in error, etc.... I am not talking about the immorality of anything. I am talking about the ILLEGALITY of what these people did...and further if this is worthy of a nationwide witch Hunt.

45 posted on 03/16/2019 7:33:55 PM PDT by nitzy
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