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To: rickmichaels

There is nothing wrong with the basic mechanics of the aircraft: Its engines, wings and control surfaces are all believed to be working fine. Rather, the passenger jet may have killed 346 people for the terrifyingly modern reason that human pilots were unable to override a malfunctioning computer.

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The computer was fine. The sensor was bad, and the airline should have had the plane grounded because of the sensor. Even so, any competent pilot could have handled the situation.


5 posted on 03/14/2019 2:46:41 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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To: Moonman62

“The computer was fine. The sensor was bad, and the airline should have had the plane grounded because of the sensor. Even so, any competent pilot could have handled the situation.”

You just contradicted yourself. The software makes up a component of the computer. The software is defective if it cannot handle a faulty sensor. Therefore the computer is defective as a whole.

And one or two of these planes took your advice and “Grounded” themselves.


13 posted on 03/14/2019 2:53:23 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Moonman62

And you would have thought that the possibility of a bad sensor would have been accounted for. Maybe a periodic and frequent real time calibration.


22 posted on 03/14/2019 3:02:07 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Moonman62

If one faulty sensor can crash the plane then it’s a design flaw. A human would not make the same mistake. Yes, apparently computers can make mistakes.


36 posted on 03/14/2019 3:33:25 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Moonman62
The sensor was bad, and the airline should have had the plane grounded because of the sensor.

I heard that Boeing decided to go with a single sensor instead of redundant ones.

41 posted on 03/14/2019 3:38:38 PM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (Even my cat voted Republican)
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To: Moonman62

Indeed. They keep saying software but Lion Air was due to the faulty AoA Sensor, and that’s hardware. If that many pilots reported issues, 1) they were able to handle it and 2) I’d be looking real hard atcthe sensors.


45 posted on 03/14/2019 3:49:18 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe #BuildIt)
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To: Moonman62
... Any competent pilot ..

I believe you are hot on the trail here. A pilot, not a Nintendo player in a uniform, would have handled this incident and thought nothing of it, just another day in they office.

66 posted on 03/14/2019 4:26:15 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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To: Moonman62

bull shit. 26 times the nose went down. You want to try it?


69 posted on 03/14/2019 4:35:27 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Moonman62

>> The computer was fine. The sensor was bad, and the airline should have had the plane grounded because of the sensor. Even so, any competent pilot could have handled the situation. <<

If they realized what was happening, and it was happening persistently.


95 posted on 03/14/2019 5:22:29 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Moonman62

No aircraft computer override system should be dependent on one sensor/one input.

HUGE design error. I’m an EE with 30 years in computers, hardware, software, etc.

Cannot believe Boeing engineers would do that.

AND that the pilots wouldn’t be trained in their certification to fly the plane of easy & quick means of overriding/cancelling the software....

TWO huge design errors........


114 posted on 03/14/2019 6:55:41 PM PDT by Arlis
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To: Moonman62

The AE35 Unit checked out fine. HAL was the problem.


135 posted on 03/14/2019 11:16:11 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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