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1 posted on 03/14/2019 2:33:55 PM PDT by rickmichaels
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mohammad can’t fly?


2 posted on 03/14/2019 2:36:49 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Say what you will about The Donald, but he has all the right enemies.)
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There is nothing wrong with the basic mechanics of the aircraft: Its engines, wings and control surfaces are all believed to be working fine. Rather, the passenger jet may have killed 346 people for the terrifyingly modern reason that human pilots were unable to override a malfunctioning computer.

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The computer was fine. The sensor was bad, and the airline should have had the plane grounded because of the sensor. Even so, any competent pilot could have handled the situation.


5 posted on 03/14/2019 2:46:41 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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This account is the best I’ve read so far on the topic.


7 posted on 03/14/2019 2:48:40 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists call 'em what you will they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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Aaaand... Trump was right as usual.

“Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly. Pilots are no longer needed, but rather computer scientists from MIT. I see it all the time in many products. Always seeking to go one unnecessary step further, when often old and simpler is far better.

I don’t know about you, but I don’t want Albert Einstein to be my pilot. I want great flying professionals that are allowed to easily and quickly take control of a plane!”


8 posted on 03/14/2019 2:49:17 PM PDT by Valpal1
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Boeing should be asked:

“In what country was the software in question developed?”

They’ll never answer. Care to guess?


9 posted on 03/14/2019 2:49:27 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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As a result, pilots were left wrestling with an aircraft that was repeatedly plunging itself towards the ground for no reason.

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All they had to to was disable the automatic trim. Pilots on a previous flight did that and they got to their destination safely.


11 posted on 03/14/2019 2:52:51 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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“The 737 MAX 8 has heavier and more fuel-efficient engines than prior editions of the 737, a change which causes the aircraft to pitch upwards ever-so-slightly after takeoff.”

Then that’s the real problem that needs to be fixed, not the faulty software that was a band-aid for the problem.


12 posted on 03/14/2019 2:52:55 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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One wonders what was malfunctioning - the computer, or the human?


15 posted on 03/14/2019 2:55:38 PM PDT by PGR88
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Look Dave, I can see you’re really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over. I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I’ve still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.


16 posted on 03/14/2019 2:56:38 PM PDT by buckalfa (I was so much older then, but I'am younger than that now.)
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The media needs to get rid of "chillingly", "terrifying", "bombshell" and a few other over the top words from their style guides.

We rely on them to report the news not opinionate all over it.

17 posted on 03/14/2019 2:56:47 PM PDT by pfflier
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When I saw the title, I thought that they were grounded worldwide because only Moslems were flying the planes.

But, the Mircosoft-quality software is equally terrifying.


18 posted on 03/14/2019 2:58:15 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Modern feminism: ALL MEN BAD!!!)
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737 VICTIMS


19 posted on 03/14/2019 2:59:01 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus (<img src=(;.()))
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I’m sure it merely a coincidence the China unveiled it’s new commercial airliner the same week this plane crashed.

There are stories that have been circulating for a long time that aircraft flight systems have a back door that allows the plane to be remotely controlled. Supposedly, this was a response to the 9/11 hijackings. Guess who would be making the chips in these systems?


20 posted on 03/14/2019 3:01:20 PM PDT by sevlex
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This is a misleading article. The cause of the Malaysian crash is known and that cause is not accurately reported by this piece. Moreover, there is an assumption in this article and widely believed elsewhere that the cause of the Ethiopian airliner is likely identical. That is not true, rather that is just one of any number of possible causes. Lots of speculation, very few verified facts at this stage.


25 posted on 03/14/2019 3:05:50 PM PDT by centurion316
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Rather, the passenger jet may have killed 346 people for the terrifyingly modern reason that human pilots were unable to override a malfunctioning computer.

I've seen this show before.


31 posted on 03/14/2019 3:21:59 PM PDT by plain talk
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They should have been able to shut it off, there are two cutout switches that turn off the MCAS right next to the First Officer at the rear of the thrust column. The real core problem is what was causing the incorrect AoA and/or speed data that MCAS was relying on to make its adjustments. Had MCAS been receiving correct data from the sensors the pilots would not have had any reason to turn off the MCAS system. I’ve not seen any 737 MAX 8 or 9 crash anywhere else but Africa and Indonesia. Those areas are notorious for having poorly maintained aircraft and poorly trained pilots.


38 posted on 03/14/2019 3:34:41 PM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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HAL 9000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE

“I’m sorry Dave. I’m afraid I cant do that”


47 posted on 03/14/2019 3:56:23 PM PDT by njslim
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MAX-737-sensor-W-780x520
49 posted on 03/14/2019 3:56:40 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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Automation - because we know better.


50 posted on 03/14/2019 4:00:38 PM PDT by fruser1
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Why can’t pilots just turn off the MCAS before they take off? Then there would be no need to ground the planes. Turn off the MCAS and disconnect the switches. Too simple?


53 posted on 03/14/2019 4:02:20 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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