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Journalists get tour of Japan's Izumo amid debate over equipping ship with aircraft carrier...
the japan times ^ | March 13, 2019 | SAKURA MURAKAMI

Posted on 03/14/2019 6:07:33 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

YOKOSUKA, KANAGAWA PREF. - Journalists on Wednesday were given a guided tour of the Izumo — Japan’s largest flat-topped helicopter carrier — for the first time since the Defense Ministry revealed a controversial plan late last year to convert it so that it could handle fixed-wing aircraft — which critics and some opposition lawmakers say could make it capable of offensive operations.

The pacifist postwar Constitution bans the possession of “attack aircraft carriers,” and calls for an exclusively defense-oriented posture. However, under a five-year defense build-up plan adopted in December, the 248-meter, 195,000-ton vessel will be undergoing a major remodeling to accommodate jet fighters, likely U.S.-developed F-35B stealth planes, which are capable of short take-offs and vertical landings.

The Defense Ministry has refused to call a remodeled Izumo “an aircraft carrier,” saying it would not regularly carry jet fighters and would also be used for missions including anti-submarine missions and rescue operations.

“My understanding is that aircraft carriers are designed specifically for the operation of aircraft only, like U.S. aircraft carriers,” Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said in mid-February at a Lower House budget committee meeting. “The Izumo is not designed for this purpose, and therefore is not an aircraft carrier.”

According to the ministry’s definition, “attack aircraft carriers” are those “to be used only for the carrying out of missions of mass destruction in other countries.” A remodeled Izumo would not fall within this category and thus would not be unconstitutional, according to the ministry.

Following the 2016 Kumamoto earthquakes, the Izumo was used to transport over 300 ground self-defense force troops to central Kyushu for disaster relief.

In the press tour on Wednesday, MSDF officers guided reporters around the Izumo, docked at the Yokosuka base in Kanagawa Prefecture, including a 170-meter-long cavernous hangar that experts say can accommodate about 10 F-35B fighters and two anti-submarine patrol helicopters.

The reporters were also allowed access to the ship’s deck, complete with its two gigantic elevators designed to carry aircraft that can weigh up to 30 tons from the hangar below.

Designed for a crew of up to 470, the Izumo can travel up to a speed of 30 knots.

The ship also accommodates a medical room with 34 makeshift beds and an ICU.

When asked, MSDF officials declined to comment on the details of the planned remodeling, saying officers operating the ship are not in a position to do so.

Still, at a Lower House meeting on defense issues held Friday, Defense Minister Takeshi Iwaya didn’t deny the possibility that U.S. fighter jets may be allowed to land on the Izumo for refueling before launching attacks.

“Legally speaking, that sort of scenario is possible, so I’m not going to outright deny that it’s a possibility,” he said in response to a question from Toru Miyamoto, a lawmaker with the Japanese Communist Party.

“So you’re saying it’s legally possible for a F-35B from the U.S. military to take off for an attack from Izumo — doesn’t this mean that the remodeled Izumo will be an ‘attack’ aircraft carrier, something banned under the Constitution?” Miyamoto asked Iwaya during the session.

The defense minister denied Miyamoto’s suggestion, saying that providing fuel to U.S. planes would not be considered a “use of force” situation with offensive intentions by Japan, thus would not violate the Constitution.

Some experts also say carrying out viable offensive attack operations would be difficult from the Izumo as it can only support about 10 F-35B fighters.

According to the five-year defense plan, the changes to the Izumo’s capabilities will raise the “overall improvement of anti-air defenses” in the airspaces over the Pacific Ocean and elsewhere in the waters around Japan.


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KEYWORDS: aircraftcarrier; f35; izumo; japan

The Maritime Self-Defense Force's Izumo helicopter carrier is docked at the port of Yokosuka in Kanagawa Prefecture on Wednesday. The MSDF the same day conducted a guided media tour of the 195,000-ton vessel, which will be remodeled to accommodate fixed-wing fighter jets. | REIJI YOSHIDA

1 posted on 03/14/2019 6:07:33 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

They need better “defensive” fighters if they are going to sail near China.

Today’s world is NOT the one they earned by losing in 43-44-45.


2 posted on 03/14/2019 6:12:45 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Dang check Wikipedia, Japan Times. Izumo weighs 19,500 tons.


3 posted on 03/14/2019 6:13:21 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Robert A Cook PE

Agreed, it’s a different world and a different Japanese society. It’s time for them to arm up, especially with China arming up.


4 posted on 03/14/2019 6:14:27 AM PDT by BBQToadRibs
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To: BBQToadRibs

“Izumo weighs 19,500 tons.”

That’s displacement, not actual weight.

L


5 posted on 03/14/2019 6:15:01 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending it is.)
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To: Lurker

? And for ships, the weight of water displaced is the weight of the ship and cargo and fuel onboard.


6 posted on 03/14/2019 6:19:42 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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To: Lurker

but 27,000 tons at full load, about 10% smaller in displacement than the fleet carriers the japanese used in WW2. The next ship in the line is named Kaga. The first Kaga attacked Pearl Harbor and was sunk at Midway. Just be careful inviting them to Pearl Harbor. It will be in very bad taste.


7 posted on 03/14/2019 6:23:36 AM PDT by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: skeeter
That's what I thought.
A 195,000-ton vessel would be more like the Federation Star Ship Enterprise....
8 posted on 03/14/2019 6:25:40 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The primary consideration should be how well this ship can fight the dual threats of Godzilla and Megaguirus.


9 posted on 03/14/2019 6:30:49 AM PDT by VietVet876
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To: Robert A Cook PE

Eureka!


10 posted on 03/14/2019 6:33:37 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: VietVet876

As long as the ship can launch Mothras, they’ll be fine.


11 posted on 03/14/2019 6:52:47 AM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

That CIWS has got to go for non-V/STOL fixed wing launches, right?


12 posted on 03/14/2019 7:00:56 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The ship can carry fixed wing fighters (STO/VL) and still not be an offensive weapon by limiting the type of aviation ordnance that is being carried to anti-aircraft guided missiles and cannon munitions. This would allow an embarked F-35 detachment (6 a/c) to perform CAP missions to extend the limited protective umbrella over the ATF.

In addition, the displacement of the ship itself (19,500/27,000) means that, considering the other personnel, equipment and supplies it must carry, the ship cannot carry enough AVGAS or munitions (specifically bombs) to execute sustained offensive air missions.


13 posted on 03/14/2019 7:09:56 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The Japanese officially call this ship a helicopter destroyer.

Its the size of the ones that sailed to Hawaii one December long ago :)

The gymnastics they have to go through to get nice things, but I think they are the good guys now. Must be nice to have a Lexus aircraft carrier.


14 posted on 03/14/2019 7:32:23 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Psalm 73; skeeter; Kaslin; SunkenCiv; Ernest_at_the_Beach

195,000 tons is a large merchant ship in today’s harbors.

And not an especially “unusually” large merchantman.

Now, in WWII, only a very, very submarine captains - through the entire war! - ever sunk more than 100,000 tons of merchant targets.

Today, one submarine, shooting one homing torpedo from well-outside of 24,000+ yards (instead of shooting a straight pattern of four torpedoes from an imposibly close range of 1000 yards aimed by eye through an optical periscope) can sink/disable 200,000 tons of cargo.

Then continue shooting until he has put 1,000,000 - 2,000,000 tons of our shipping underwater.

Then return for his second patrol.


15 posted on 03/14/2019 7:58:23 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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To: rlmorel

ping


16 posted on 03/14/2019 6:13:36 PM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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