Posted on 03/10/2019 1:35:43 PM PDT by springwater13
The Boeing 737 MAX 8, a brand new plane only registered in November, disappeared from the radar six minutes into the flight. Immediate comparisons have been drawn with Lion Air flight 610, which crashed just over four months ago, killing 189 people. Flight data showed erratic climbs and descents before the plane, also a MAX 8, came down 12 minutes after takeoff from Jakarta.
More than 300 Boeing 737-MAX planes are in operation and more than 5,000 have been ordered worldwide since 2017. It is the latest iteration of the 737, the world’s bestselling plane, ever more capable of flying autonomously.
Autonomy, however, can bring problems. It is notable that insurers considering driverless cars worry most about the period when highly autonomous vehicles will coexist with human drivers, the uncertain interface between human and artificial intelligence.
Pilots worldwide were angered after the Lion Air crash that subtle software modifications to the MAX 8’s autopilot had not been fully communicated. Nor were they made the subject of mandatory pilot retraining.
The new plane automatically compensates if it believes its angle puts it at a risk of stalling, a safety feature that worked in a slightly different way to that which 737 pilots were used to. Lion Air’s black box suggested the pilots of flight 610 had been wrestling with this issue.
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I once flew on an Ethiopian airline in the mid 80’s from Abu Dhabi to Amman Jordan. On the descent to land I was thinking something was off. I realized we were leaning forward at around a 30 to 40 degree angle nose down on the approach the entire way until we landed. I’ve flown many times and never recall an approach like that. Maybe there is something I don’t know but it seemed very strange.
I once flew on an Ethiopian airline in the mid 80’s from Abu Dhabi to Amman Jordan. On the descent to land I was thinking something was off. I realized we were leaning forward at around a 30 to 40 degree angle nose down on the approach the entire way until we landed. I’ve flown many times and never recall an approach like that. Maybe there is something I don’t know but it seemed very strange.
I once flew on an Ethiopian airline in the mid 80’s from Abu Dhabi to Amman Jordan. On the descent to land I was thinking something was off. I realized we were leaning forward at around a 30 to 40 degree angle nose down on the approach the entire way until we landed. I’ve flown many times and never recall an approach like that. Maybe there is something I don’t know but it seemed very strange.
That describes my unmarked smooth top that I used on the PD in Syracuse in the late 70’s. 400 ci V8 with a huge thermoquad 4 barrel carburetor. What a solid car and incredibly fast.
Incompetent third-world “pilots”.
Nice. Bet it had nice tires and suspension aids like some sort of sway bar and/or a rear traction stabilizer.
Shoulda used the eight rupee/hour programmers instead of the five rupee/hour programmers.
Back in the days when the F-16 was a test plane at Edwards, those of us who flew the 15 and others said, “Never pilot a plane when you are only a voting member.”
That used to be Boeing’s philosophy. Now they appear to be approaching the Airbus philosophy. IMHO, not good.
The opining shots are vintage Police Squad.
That’s what one Israeli said about the F-16. Which I’m sure is an amazing plane.
He missed the Mirage III with its hydraulic controls and the feel of such.
It was IAF pilot Giora Epstein
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giora_Epstein
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0uyV3v_7AQ
It’s fun watching these videos with Ron Ronin and the others.
Love those machines. LOVE them.
Cool interview with AD Rock of the Beastie Boys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23ZlUOeiCqo
If they were muslins yhey did not suffer enough
That’s interesting. Is it a matter of how many changes are too much? At some point should they start plane design from the beginning? Is there a level of complexity at which accidents become more likely?
My dad repeatedly gives me a hard time about my fear of flying. I can’t explain how my mind plays out a horrific scene of the moments before impact with every turbulence that jerks the plane. This story just strengthens my resistance to flying.
The first new car I ever bought was a 1964 Malibu SS, the first year they were made. I got it November of 63, and it was the first Chevelle in the area. To give you an idea of the inflation since then, I paid sticker price for the car. $3290.
Flying is O.K.
It’s when the aircraft stops flying and it’s still at altitude. Then there are real problems.
I’ve flown probably 200 times. There are only 3 times out of that where I was rather concerned.
Sorry I was making a
oblique joke reference to The Nairobi Trio
I thought one of the older n me folks would get
That is just a straight up great car. Hats off.
I flew SWA all the time, until that Lion Air crash. Now I’m more reluctant.
Ah,thanks I think maybe before my time..
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