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1 posted on 02/21/2019 8:06:57 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Meanwhile, foreign applicants are getting hired for software jobs (instead of our domestic unemployed degreed software-computer-IT engineers), and supposedly this is justified by the alleged lack of domestic candidates.


2 posted on 02/21/2019 8:07:46 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Yes, we do. Try posting a job and see who applies. We’re talking 6 figure entry level jobs here in the DFW metroplex.


3 posted on 02/21/2019 8:10:56 AM PST by TexasGunLover
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I remember when I was told about COBOL school by a guy in 1982 I said to him (and these are my exact words), “I thought I missed the computer revolution.”

It’s been my career ever since, bringing me a six figure income with no college, started by a ten month, four night a week, $2,300 class.

This is one reason I’m not a big fan of going to college.


6 posted on 02/21/2019 8:15:44 AM PST by cuban leaf
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Free Code Camp - the best I've found ...
8 posted on 02/21/2019 8:20:50 AM PST by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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let's ask: do we need more software developers and software engineers?

Absa effin lutely.

I've spent a large portion of my career in user experience design, and one thing we definitely lack is tech guys who can jibe with the American way of doing front end design, which often involves a lot of creative problem solving on the fly and trial and error. A front end coder who can fly by the seat of his or her pants is the unicorn.

12 posted on 02/21/2019 8:35:13 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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I’m pretty sure our side was being just as sarcastic as their side was when they said it.


15 posted on 02/21/2019 8:41:18 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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My son has been coding since he was in 1st grade. He is 15 now and is 100 times better than any entry level person I have hired.

He just got his first job through an acquaintance.

He is doing software development for an analytics based company for $25 per hour.

That is pretty darn good for a 15 year old and it is only going to rise.


22 posted on 02/21/2019 9:06:50 AM PST by laxcoach (Government is greedy. Taxpayers who want their own money are not greedy.)
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A suggestion for young people: Learn a trade or profession and be good at it. Choose accordingly.

Be computer literate, but don't choose it as a profession unless G-d himself calls you to it.

23 posted on 02/21/2019 9:25:06 AM PST by OKSooner (Better call Saul!!!)
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There are more computer programmers in Seattle than retail clerks. Let that sink in. The globalists under Bush and Obama pushed the H1b program to let the coding genii out of the bottle.


24 posted on 02/21/2019 9:26:45 AM PST by RideForever
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If the answer is no, then we surely don’t need H1B.


26 posted on 02/21/2019 9:27:45 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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It seems logical to me to lose coding to machines. I can't believe an untrained person couldn't just check boxes on a page and a software program isn't written to a thumb drive to use where the program is needed. Just as Web pages were cranked out by the millions by the people using them, it seems to me that even complicated programs could be designed by checking boxes or even voice commands to render an end product. Writing accounting software for a specific business with unique problems is still accounting software. The code would just have to be modified for the unique cases in the specific business. Needing coders for every single use seems naive to me.

The farmers used to say we still need workers to pick certain fruits or certain crops, but today almost all have machines to pick the crop, even strawberries. I can't see why someone hasn't invented a program to pick from column "A" and add Column "B" to make a specialized program for "C". There are already thousands of on the record routines that could be adapted to almost anything.

27 posted on 02/21/2019 9:55:10 AM PST by chuckles
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Python engineers seem to be in huge demand at least. The last python meet up I attended had several attendees trying to recruit, but when the room of 200 or so were asked if anybody was looking for work nobody raised their hand...eventually one engineer raised his hand for somebody who might consider a new opportunity. We get recruiters chasing us.


29 posted on 02/21/2019 9:59:52 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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Yes because programmers have a half-life. A given programmer probably averages about 7 years punching code and that may be generous. About 50% of them want to go into management because the money is higher. So you are constantly losing coders.


33 posted on 02/21/2019 10:16:25 AM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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From my perspective, a former Assistant Professor who taught Fortran and has not written a single line of code for years, I don’t think that we need more coders, but we sure need some better coders. Writing code requires a certain skill, but designing and producing something that meets a specified purpose efficiently, accurately, and integrated into the overall architecture is a different story and its hard to find someone who can do that. That’s why those people get the big bucks.

My own pet peeve is stuff that has an interface written in programmer jargon and can’t be understood by the engineers, accountants, HR specialists who need to use it. A little User Experience expertise is needed. Perhaps journalists could learn to do that.


35 posted on 02/21/2019 10:20:46 AM PST by centurion316
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I’ve recently retired from the business and glad I did. New languages come out too often. And anybody around the world can write programs now.


36 posted on 02/21/2019 10:24:05 AM PST by McGruff
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I’m a software developer and I don’t know where he gets his facts from. The articles I have read have said we are not graduating enough people to fill the future needs of the software industry. But go ahead and keep pushing this line. It keeps me employed and highly paid well into the future.


40 posted on 02/21/2019 10:59:38 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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It’s not just learn to code. They’ve gotta do the life style and walk the globalist walk first.

Step 1. Get an Indian passport and surrender their US passport.
Step 2. Move to India and get a job in a tech support call center. Serve your time.
Step 3. Compete for an H1B visa.
Step 4. Win an H1B visa slot.
Step 5. Come to the US and *then* learn to code.


45 posted on 02/21/2019 12:22:53 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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