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The Sack Of Baghdad In 1258 – One Of The Bloodiest Days In Human History
War History Online ^ | 15feb19 | Jay Hemmings

Posted on 02/21/2019 4:45:37 AM PST by vannrox

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To: vannrox

Lots of speculative and inconsistent writing there...


21 posted on 02/21/2019 9:01:58 AM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: vannrox

They should have took the Khans offer. This is why Genghis was the greatest combo of ruler and conqueror in history, because even long after his death, his empire continued to grow under his sons and grandsons.


22 posted on 02/21/2019 10:39:17 AM PST by ohioman (uestion)
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To: SunkenCiv

*ping*


23 posted on 02/21/2019 10:48:14 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: fieldmarshaldj; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
The city had approximately one million residents, and the army massacred many of them. It was a horrendous act that, in one fell swoop, brought an end to the Islamic Golden Age.
IOW, it was a huge break for the rest of the world. Thanks fieldmarshaldj for the ping, thanks vannrox for the topic.

24 posted on 02/21/2019 11:06:15 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: Vermont Lt

My second thought was the Mongolsdid not mess around.

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And they didn’t have a whole lot of problems with guerrilla warfare after a conquest either. Best COIN is no need for COIN.

Lesson we might want to learn.


25 posted on 02/21/2019 11:20:50 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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26 posted on 02/21/2019 11:26:45 AM PST by freds6girlies (many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. Mt. 19:30. R.I.P. G & J)
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To: SunkenCiv
If those guys were so smart and focused on learning, they didn't know not to piss off a Mongol army? A few books short of a library, I'd say.

Interesting thought experiment to speculate what might have been if this empire had continued to the time of the Ottoman Empire. Might it have been a rival? But, that assumes Mongols would not act like Mongols and a dumb@$$ Caliph wasn't a, well . . .

27 posted on 02/21/2019 11:58:52 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: jjotto

Right. But remember... everything in the Christian bible is a “myth”. Absolute archeological proof is necessary to even consider parts of the bible as history.


28 posted on 02/21/2019 12:13:07 PM PST by spudville
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To: Grimmy

Well, I don’t thing a complete scorched earth would get past Congressional oversight.


29 posted on 02/21/2019 12:24:24 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

Well, I don’t thing a complete scorched earth would get past Congressional oversight.

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That’s where we’ve always screwed up in the past.

Order of events.

Next time, we have the congressional junket and grand tour on the ground and in place *then* the scortching o’ the earth.

2 enemy, one event. Way more economical.


30 posted on 02/21/2019 12:26:38 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: vannrox

What I like about this story is that it may show God’s divine retribution for Islam’s persecution and murder of Jews and Christians. Islam ALWAYS has bloody borders and bloody conquest. Historically, Christians and Jews seem to especially bear the brunt of Muslim ire because they do not convert to the Moon God religion. Poetically, God sends a Mongolian of Christian decent to be the “hammer” of judgment...


31 posted on 02/21/2019 12:36:19 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: vannrox

While people here pat them selves on the back for hating President George W Bush, History will remember him as the conqueror of Baghdad and his victory over the tyrant Saddam Hussein


32 posted on 02/21/2019 1:39:27 PM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Honduras must be invaded to protect America from invasion)
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To: 2banana
There ewas no Islamic Golden Age. see Epilogue and the book Mohammed and Charlemagne
33 posted on 02/21/2019 1:57:53 PM PST by ThanhPhero
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To: John O
@John O

I have a new found appreciation for the Mongols though. :D

The modern day incarnation of Mongols is the Red Chinese. And, in case you are wondering, they have ZERO tolerance for the nonsense of the Muslims.
34 posted on 02/21/2019 4:43:21 PM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: vannrox

The Jews were taken to the area many centuries earlier. Only a handful returned to Jerusalem to build The Temple and the city back up. I would guess that if one followed bloodlines you would find God’s chosen responsible for much of the good in the area.


35 posted on 02/22/2019 2:51:28 AM PST by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus? He says absolutely amazing things, which few dare consider.)
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To: Grimmy

Shock and Awe, Mongol style.


36 posted on 02/22/2019 3:12:11 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: vannrox

SUMMARY—
Muhammad’s Jihad armies had wasted, converted and conquered the Middle East, North Africa, Spain and Persia.
BUT crumpled when when the Mongols of Hulagu Khan rode into Baghdad.


37 posted on 02/22/2019 3:16:14 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Blue Jays
Nope. Not buying the author’s written story.
I read the entire article, and did a search on the phrase you're quoting:
"...peaceful, educated, and truly lovely Muslims who are very friendly and graciously kindhearted..."
That does not show up. Where are you getting it?
38 posted on 02/22/2019 4:29:21 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Marxism: Trendy theory, wrong species)
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To: John O
I just can’t seem to get upset over the deaths of hundreds of thousands of moslem terrorists.

From the article: "As for the rest, the Mongol warriors put men, women, and children, old and young, to the sword."


I guess the killing of children doesn't upset you - as long as they're Muslim?

Oh, I get it - since they're Muslim children, that automatically makes them terrorists.

39 posted on 02/22/2019 4:37:30 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Marxism: Trendy theory, wrong species)
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To: vannrox

The Mongols really only wanted to take over the Province of Rum. Baghdad was just a bump in the road to them.


40 posted on 02/22/2019 4:45:35 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Trump: "America will never be a socialist country!")
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