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Guns in the UK...

Posted on 02/18/2019 10:14:31 AM PST by Da_Shrimp

Sometimes it seems from reading posts on here that the average Freeper thinks that guns are pretty much banned in the UK. They aren't, though.

Handguns are banned (unfortunately), but otherwise we have a reasonable choice of legal weaponry, including Accuracy International sniper rifles if you have £23K to spare. Semi-automatic rifles are limited to .22 rimfire, but bolt-action rifles are not.

Here's a link to my nearest gun dealer, so you can see what's available this side of the pond:

https://www.thecountryman.com/

Comments welcome - not trying to start any fights, just interested in opinions. Personally I own a Mossberg 500 and am looking for a semi-auto shotgun for clay breaking as my arthritis is getting increasingly irritating! :-)


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KEYWORDS: banglist; england; gunlaws; guns; restrictions; uk
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To: backwoods-engineer
It's at your gun club, isn't it?

No. It's in my gun cabinet, in the attic.

21 posted on 02/18/2019 10:39:02 AM PST by Da_Shrimp (Dum vivimus, vivamus!)
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To: Da_Shrimp

“Handguns are banned (unfortunately),...”

And, unfortunately, we aren’t go to give you any of our hundreds of millions the next go around like we did the last. I love you Brits but despise your left wing politicans and governments almost as much as ours.


22 posted on 02/18/2019 10:39:42 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Da_Shrimp

No, you may not chase down and shoot anyone in any state in the US. that is not considered self defense.

You have to be credibly concerned for your life or the lives of innocent others to shoot someone; if someone is running away he is clearly not a present threat.


23 posted on 02/18/2019 10:40:12 AM PST by Persevero (Desmond is not -Amazing- Desmond is -Abused-)
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To: Da_Shrimp

I am encouraged to see that even in this extreme fun control country some arms are allowed. Hope things loosen up for you.


24 posted on 02/18/2019 10:41:30 AM PST by Persevero (Desmond is not -Amazing- Desmond is -Abused-)
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To: Da_Shrimp

Do the bad guys care? Do the bad guys care across the pond?


25 posted on 02/18/2019 10:41:50 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: LibWhacker

> How do women, the elderly and the infirm defend themselves when they are attacked while out in the public? <

According to the UK police website below, even pepper spray is illegal in the UK. The only fully legal defense product is a “rape alarm”. Pull the pin as you’re being stabbed, and the device will emit a loud noise.

Pathetic.

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q589.htm


26 posted on 02/18/2019 10:42:39 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
This one will be a pretty soft shooter. Good price too.>p>

Yes taking a serious look at that one! The Hatsans are also looking good, pricewise!.

27 posted on 02/18/2019 10:43:05 AM PST by Da_Shrimp (Dum vivimus, vivamus!)
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To: Da_Shrimp
As long as they leave before the tide rolls in. 😁 One is going into the ministry...so is a must-see.
28 posted on 02/18/2019 10:44:06 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Da_Shrimp
Again, do all US States allow concealed carry?

In New Hampshire the right to carry a handgun either openly or concealed is not contingent on any government action. You can just go ahead and do it. (Assuming you are not a convicted felon, or a person otherwise not allowed to possess a firearm due to age, or other factors.)

There are some federal laws that apply to particular places however, such as Post Offices, schools, and airports.

There are also some regulations related to hunting, so if you are wandering around in the woods during hunting season with a gun and a dead dear on your ATV then you need to have a hunting license.

29 posted on 02/18/2019 10:44:25 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: backwoods-engineer
Then stop spouting nonsense to justify your enslaved condition.

I'm actually not spouting nonsense or angling for a fight. It's for information and discussion. I'm interested in giving information about what IS available (as some seem to think we can't even own semi-auto shotguns) and in a discussion. I knew that some folk would shoot me down in flames, but that's ok.

30 posted on 02/18/2019 10:46:17 AM PST by Da_Shrimp (Dum vivimus, vivamus!)
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To: Persevero
in this extreme fun control country

That's what happens... 8~)

31 posted on 02/18/2019 10:47:19 AM PST by real saxophonist (One side has guns and training. Other side's primary concern is 'gender identity'. Who's gonna win?)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
As long as they leave before the tide rolls in.

Yeah, there is that :-)

32 posted on 02/18/2019 10:48:51 AM PST by Da_Shrimp (Dum vivimus, vivamus!)
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To: Da_Shrimp

All 50 states are required to allow concealed carry, more states are becoming Constitutional carry with out a permit open or concealed. I have taken to carrying my full sized Glock 40 s&w daily openly. I keep my CCW permit merely for reciprocity sake with states I travel to.


33 posted on 02/18/2019 10:50:09 AM PST by rebel25 (GOD, Family, guns, and duck hunting, everything else is just noise.)
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To: Da_Shrimp
I have two Mossberg 500s. One is a 16 gauge. So there!

(kinda hard to carry concealed...)

34 posted on 02/18/2019 10:51:00 AM PST by real saxophonist (One side has guns and training. Other side's primary concern is 'gender identity'. Who's gonna win?)
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To: Da_Shrimp

Hatsans are made in Turkey.

There’s a reason Beretta has been in business since 1526. The overwhelming number of semi-autos used in clay shooting here are one of the Beretta models.


35 posted on 02/18/2019 10:51:24 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Da_Shrimp

I remember when British citizens could own handguns, registered of course. Then came the Dunblane murders and an excuse to confiscate the registered guns.
A-s-s-ault rifles, common in England, and registered, were banned, confiscated, and tube fed shotguns and .22 rifles had their magazines crimped so no more than just a few rounds could be loaded. One gunsmith lamented as he crimped a shotgun as this was not why he became a gunsmith, to destroy perfectly good firearms.

Going back farther, the government was so worried about “REDS” that they fabricated a reason, “CRIME!” in 1919, to start registering guns.

After Dunkirk, so few firearms were in Britain that they asked Americans to “Send a Gun To Defend A British Home!” No doubt if the Nazis had invaded, the British citizenry would have met them on the beaches armed with those great old military weapons of the commoners. the Hay Rake, scythe, and Pitch fork.


36 posted on 02/18/2019 10:55:37 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Tijeras_Slim
The overwhelming number of semi-autos used in clay shooting here are one of the Beretta models.

Yes, and they're much more stylish that the Hatsans

The Hatsan range is quite wide in appeal, though - they even do a model aimed at women:

Hatsan Escort 'Muddy Girl'

37 posted on 02/18/2019 10:57:04 AM PST by Da_Shrimp (Dum vivimus, vivamus!)
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To: Da_Shrimp
I looked at that site, there's a lot of expensive stuff there. I do like the term 'sound mitigation'.

But how much can you use? I'm reminded of the lyrics, My Maserati does 185, I lost my license, now I don't drive'.

38 posted on 02/18/2019 10:58:45 AM PST by real saxophonist (One side has guns and training. Other side's primary concern is 'gender identity'. Who's gonna win?)
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To: Da_Shrimp
No. It's in my gun cabinet, in the attic.

Is it a requirement that any gun stored in a person's house be locked up in a safe (or gun cabinet) in the furthest reaches of the house where the gun would be completely useless in an emergency? Some states here in the US (where insane liberals rule) have similar nutty laws or are trying to adopt them.

39 posted on 02/18/2019 11:02:02 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
I remember when British citizens could own handguns, registered of course.

Me too - I remember Dunblane very well, I was in my 30s when it happened.

and tube fed shotguns and .22 rifles had their magazines crimped so no more than just a few rounds could be loaded.

Shotguns are limited to 2+1 on a Section 2 licence, 7+1 or more on a Section 1. Not sure about rifle magazines, but I think 10 is pretty common.

40 posted on 02/18/2019 11:02:48 AM PST by Da_Shrimp (Dum vivimus, vivamus!)
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