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FWIW RE THE MILITARY TRIBUNALS:

This is supposedly a site which has been given access to the Military Tribunals. I don’t know what to think, but it sounds interesting to me. This link has reports from
Linda Forsythe and Leonard Bacani.

https://c-vine.com

This following link has an interesting report:

https://c-vine.com/blog/2019/02/03/part-2-of-military-tribunal-transcriptions-united-states-vs-khalid-shaikh-mohammad-et-al/

“...This video Leonard Bacani and I conducted are of critical importance to watch closely, scrutinize and discuss. Please download the transcript for day 2 above and keep for study. Our rights as citizens may be in jeopardy as they are trying to close these proceedings from public view. It is our Constitutional RIGHT to for the public to view Military Tribunals and frankly ESPECIALLY THESE PROCEEDINGS.

Don’t let the “pre-trial” label fool you. Things are happening here to set a precedent for future proceedings and take away our Constitutional Rights.

Remember all those trials behind closed doors that We the People are STILL waiting to see regarding the un-redacted/declassified transcripts? Well… Military Tribunals via the U.S. Constitution AND Presidential Executive Order clearly stipulates that these proceeding are to be made PUBLIC and only under very narrow specific guideline are they allowed to be held behind closed doors if there are specific detriments to National Security. And even then, after the issue is resolved, the trial is immediately meant to be made available to the public.

There are those who question whether our U.S Constitution and its Amendments do indeed give the right to view a Military Tribunal. The United States Court of Military Appeals has recognized the constitutional right of access, mandating the same test for closure in courts-martial as applied by federal courts: “where the state attempts to deny the right of access in order to inhibit the disclosure of sensitive information, it must be shown that the denial is necessitated by a compelling governmental interest, and is narrowly tailored to serve that interest.” In both federal courts and courts-martial it is now clear that these rights belong to the public, not to the government or the defendant, and are fundamentally necessary for the effective functioning of our criminal justice system. Neither the defendant nor the government nor both jointly can shield a proceeding from public view without meeting the stringent constitutional test.

Military tribunals are the functional equivalent of federal courts and courts-martial in terms of the press and public’s right of access. The tribunals will act as a “theatre of justice” where those who allegedly sought to terrorize and undermine the United States will be tried. While the defendants may not have constitutional rights because they are noncitizens captured abroad, the press and public do not give up their rights based solely on the forum chosen by the President.

Terrorists, hijackers, spies, mobsters, drug dealers and others have all been tried in open federal court, where the First Amendment applies, in cases involving serious national security concerns, without classified information being leaked. Federal judges routinely close the proceedings for a limited time when classified information is introduced into evidence. The Classified Information Procedure Act permits prosecutors to keep from defendants and the public certain sensitive information, and federal judges must defer to the government’s reasonable concerns about national security.

A former federal prosecution of terrorists is an example of how a court effectively handled national security information while balancing the press and public’s First Amendment rights of access. In early 2001 Judge Leonard Sand in New York presided over a trial of four members of Al Qaeda, who were jointly charged with Osama bin Laden in a far-reaching conspiracy that spanned at least ten years. The conspiracy culminated in the truck-bombing of the United States embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, on August 7, 1998, when 224 people, including twelve Americans, were killed and more than 4,500 others injured.

Once the trial began, Judge Sand balanced the need for secrecy with the First Amendment requirement that the trial must, except in extraordinary circumstances, be open to the public. Jury selection, for example, was closed, based on the court’s determination that openness would discourage prospective jurors from being candid about their views of capital punishment. Judge Sand also ruled that for their own protection the identity of the jurors would not be released. Similarly, when an FBI informant took the witness stand, the judge ordered the courtroom artists not to sketch him. Judge Sand closed the courtroom so that two secret plea agreements could be reached; he sealed documents and heard secret testimony about the jail conditions of the Al Qaeda defendants. As a result, no classified information was leaked.

President Trump also Amended the “Manual for Courts-Martial, United States” that went into effect of January 1, 2019. The Amendments also cover these issues. Click on the link:”

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2018-amendments-manual-courts-martial-united-states/


914 posted on 02/09/2019 6:29:57 PM PST by TEXOKIE
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To: TEXOKIE

FYI & FWIW... the manual for courts martial are subject to annual review and amendments have occurred damn near every year via E.O.
I had a difficult time trying to match up the changes year over year or any given year vs. any given year and I stopped trying to see what was new vs. what was modified.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/search?conditions%5Bterm%5D=Amendments+to+the+Manual+for+Courts-Martial&order=newest


1,071 posted on 02/09/2019 10:10:25 PM PST by stylin19a (2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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