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Piers Morgan blasts campaigner who says WWII bombers committed a 'war crime' in fiery [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | January 22, 2019 | Martin Robinson

Posted on 01/22/2019 6:47:57 AM PST by C19fan

A controversial academic today risked to wrath of Britain's veterans and their families after calling the RAF airmen who bombed Nazi Germany war criminals.

Dr Kehinde Andrews, a professor of black studies at Birmingham City University, said the decision to build tributes like the Bomber Command Memorial desecrated with white paint yesterday was like 'justifying terrorism'.

He said: ‘We are talking about a war crime. I think it is a tragedy they died, but we don’t need a statue.’

His extraordinary statements came on ITV's Good Morning Britain today where host Piers Morgan asked him: 'Why do you see everything that we are proud of as sticks to beat our country with? Sometimes you have to stand up and fight'.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: bombers; kehindeandrews; piersmorgan; theresamay; unitedkingdom; war
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To: central_va

I just recently viewed this. That’s where I came up with the figures. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cgRwDkP6vk


61 posted on 01/22/2019 4:15:07 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (What is earned is treasured, what is free is worth what you paid for it.)
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To: dfwgator

I know.. That is why I am so torn.


62 posted on 01/22/2019 4:31:18 PM PST by crazydad
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To: C19fan

what does the good prof think of Tuskegee airman


63 posted on 01/22/2019 4:35:44 PM PST by Nailbiter
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To: FLT-bird
I’m willing to do whatever is necessary to win a war of national survival. That doesn’t mean I have to think killing civilians is anything other than awful. Get a grip.

I've got a grip. The only way to defeat the mooselimb terrorists is eradication. With islam, there are no civilians.

64 posted on 01/22/2019 4:47:00 PM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke all mooselimb terrorists, today.)
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To: NorthMountain
His sole interest was in killing Germans for the sake of killing Germans.

You'll excuse me if I don't shed any tears for the "poor Germans".

65 posted on 01/22/2019 4:49:23 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: NorthMountain
Yes, the German National Socialists were horrible people. That, of course, excuses being just like them.

Thank the Almighty that your kind of foolish thinking didn't guide our leaders in that war of extermination.

Pray tell, what do you think should have been done to win that war, Armchair Charlie? And how many more dead people (including civilians) would there have been with your tactics?

66 posted on 01/22/2019 5:05:05 PM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: miss marmelstein
Oh, there are plenty of Brits who think this way. They hate Bomber Harris.

And judging by the election, they couldn't wait to get rid of Churchill after the war was over.

67 posted on 01/22/2019 5:07:26 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: NorthMountain

Oh, so you think the Nazis would have had a “Marshall Plan”, or would have sacrificed 31 of their own during the Berlin Airlift, like we did?


68 posted on 01/22/2019 5:08:55 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: C19fan

One of the saddest things that has happened is the educated, knowledgeable, middle class Blacks, decided to enter academe and, some of them, let loose with all of their oppressions, both real and imagined, on the captive audience known as students.

Almost every time a report appears that a professor is brutalizing white people, it comes from a Black, male or female.
I find that sad, if they could be optimistic about their lives, they, and we, would all be better off and a lot happier.


69 posted on 01/22/2019 5:11:32 PM PST by Maris Crane
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To: dfwgator; Teacher317

None of your comments have any relevance to my point. You discredit yourselves.


70 posted on 01/22/2019 5:31:15 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: crazydad

“I do think Dresden was not the best Target. It was untouched and we did it to appease Stalin. FLAME AWAY!” [crazydad, post 46]

Flames not required. You are completely mistaken about Dresden as a target complex - there are no facts supporting your argument. “Appeasement” of the USSR was secondary.

First, the city was a rail transportation hub: troops, supplies, vehicles, weapons had to go through there, either from the production centers in the west, to deploy on the Eastern Front; or Wehrmacht forces redeploying from the Eastern Front to the West had to go through in the other direction. 30 seconds’ perusal of a map should dispel any confusion here.

There was also real fear on the part of the Western Allies that German forces would retreat into Bavaria (the Nazi “homeland”) and the Alps, make common cause with the gauleiters, SS, and other fanatic Nazis, and prosecute irregular warfare from mountain redoubts for the foreseeable future. Taking out Dresden as a transportation nexus cut off that avenue of retreat.

Dresden did not have much heavy industry, but it was home to several vital light industries and manufacturers of small precision parts. Optics firms were numerous. Small parts and optics were just as important to the Third Reich’s war making capacity as tank chassis and artillery tubes. Think radios, weapon sights, aircraft instruments.

The Third Reich’s Ministry of Propaganda tried to make a big deal out of the Allied air attacks of February 1945. Taking Herr Doktor Goebbels’ hot air at face value is still a foolish move, 74 years after the fact.


71 posted on 01/22/2019 8:08:07 PM PST by schurmann
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Well it’s totally bogus. India didn’t lose more people(casualties) in WWII than the UK. LOL.


72 posted on 01/23/2019 6:37:34 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va

Well it’s totally bogus. India didn’t lose more people(casualties) in WWII than the UK. ???? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties


73 posted on 01/23/2019 10:12:50 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (What is earned is treasured, what is free is worth what you paid for it.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Right. UK 383K casualties, India 87K casualties.


74 posted on 01/23/2019 10:16:02 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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