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Priest criticizes teen who killed himself at funeral
New York Post ^ | Dec 14, 2018 | AP

Posted on 12/15/2018 4:10:34 AM PST by sparklite2

Maison Hullibarger’s father tells the Detroit Free Press that he asked the priest to stop talking during the Dec. 8 funeral Mass. But Jeff Hullibarger says the Rev. Don LaCuesta continued giving a critical sermon at Our Lady of Mount Carmel Church in Temperance.

Hullibarger says some mourners left the church crying.

The archdiocese released a statement Thursday saying it’s sorry that an “unbearable situation was made even more difficult.” The archdiocese says LaCuesta will not preach at funerals “for the foreseeable future.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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To: sparklite2
Anachronistic macabre?
or
Macabre anachronism?


21 posted on 12/15/2018 5:06:36 AM PST by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: real saxophonist

That’s precisely how it’s worded, but our modern journalism types have AOC IQ’s.

But you do have an interesting point, as it triggered a memory where a man went to a funeral parlor and shot himself. Sad, but true.


22 posted on 12/15/2018 5:07:26 AM PST by redfreedom (.)
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To: sparklite2
Did the Priest’s criticism at the funeral cause the teen to kill himself?
23 posted on 12/15/2018 5:09:50 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Safetgiver

Obviously you don’t watch TV or movies. Don’t you know that whatever happens to you after death is whatever you believe? /s/


24 posted on 12/15/2018 5:10:39 AM PST by redfreedom (.)
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To: sparklite2

What about criticizing priests for corruption and false doctrine? I have noticed that is a far worse crime....


25 posted on 12/15/2018 5:12:06 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: real saxophonist

Punctuation matters.


26 posted on 12/15/2018 5:13:07 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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To: sparklite2

I am scheduled to go to a time traveling meeting last Thursday.


27 posted on 12/15/2018 5:14:08 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to says)
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To: sparklite2

There is only one sin that can separate us from God and send a person to hell. The only unforgivable sin is refusing to accept Christ as Lord and Savior. Anyone who turns to Jesus for forgiveness is made righteous by his blood (Romans 5:9) which covers our sin — past, present, and future.


28 posted on 12/15/2018 5:14:08 AM PST by Ikeon (Sadly, the sheep just voted a wolf as the head chef in their own house. whats for dinner? mutton)
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To: Fido969

“- - - such as mental illness that may lead to it.”

We all have a built in instinct to survive, with that said, wouldn’t mental illness be a factor in all suicides?


29 posted on 12/15/2018 5:18:37 AM PST by redfreedom (.)
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To: sparklite2
In the past, suicides could not get a Catholic funeral.

From a medical standpoint, showing sympathy for a suicide actually inspires copycat suicides, so doctors groups used to discourage even sympathetic news coverage.

30 posted on 12/15/2018 5:22:39 AM PST by LadyDoc (Liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: NotSoFreeStater

Written by “Associated Press”.
Don’t reports put their name on their work anymore?


31 posted on 12/15/2018 5:23:39 AM PST by Tai_Chung
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To: real saxophonist

A few commas would be helpful


32 posted on 12/15/2018 5:37:52 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Bayard
Family wanted a canonization and when they didn’t get it, they run to the press. Killing yourself is still a grave sin in the Church.

So, then is it your contention that at every funeral priests should be critical and tell all those in attendance how despicable a sinner the deceased is and that they might not be welcome in heaven? After all, we are all sinners.

33 posted on 12/15/2018 5:38:09 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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To: Delta 21

AMEN!


34 posted on 12/15/2018 5:38:41 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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To: Bayard
"Family wanted a canonization and when they didn’t get it, they run to the press. Killing yourself is still a grave sin in the Church."

This is what I'm sensing too. Since the article nowhere directly quotes the priest, he may have said something as simple as "Only God knows whether he is in heaven or not, but we need to pray for the repose of his soul," which is solidly Catholic teaching (2 Maccabees 12:39-46).

35 posted on 12/15/2018 5:42:01 AM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
"So, then is it your contention that at every funeral priests should be critical and tell all those in attendance how despicable a sinner the deceased is and that they might not be welcome in heaven? After all, we are all sinners."

Actually, we don't exactly what the priest said because the article doesn't tell us. All we know is that the family didn't like it.

36 posted on 12/15/2018 5:45:35 AM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: Jonty30

Suicide definitely harms others.


37 posted on 12/15/2018 5:50:07 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

>>>So, then is it your contention that at every funeral priests should be critical and tell all those in attendance how despicable a sinner the deceased is and that they might not be welcome in heaven? After all, we are all sinners.<<<

Catholics believe that prayers for the dead are efficacious if there is sin that has punishments due to it. Unless such sins are heinous sins they are likely in purgatory and have to be purged of those sins before entering heaven.


38 posted on 12/15/2018 5:50:35 AM PST by Bayard
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To: NotSoFreeStater

This seems to happen often at the Post. I think they do it on purpose.


39 posted on 12/15/2018 5:51:58 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; Bayard; LadyDoc; Ikeon; Puppage; MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; liberalh8ter; ...

There’s quite a bit more to the story.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/12/14/hullibarger-bedford-suicide-gofundme/2308094002/

The kid’s football coach had been bullying him, so the family asked the coach not to attend the funeral. He did anyway and was asked to leave. Then the coach posted this on social media ...

““I was just asked to leave a funeral by a family member of a deceased football player. If you need someone to blame, I’m your man, I’m your fall guy. This is how society is when things go not as planned. We blame others for our own shortcomings.”

After word about Wood’s online sneer reached school officials, his coaching duties were terminated.

As for the priest...

“At the funeral, after he’d lectured mourners about suicide, LaCuesta tried to keep Maison’s parents from eulogizing their son, even though that had been agreed on well in advance, they said.

“I had words prepared, but when (the priest) was done, he was going to finish mass without giving anybody else the opportunity to say anything. He had the organist start playing and they were going to roll the casket out — some nerve.

“Our funeral director by this time was at the front of the church. We had to have the funeral director walk over and stop the organist,” Jeff Hullibarger said.

... As the casket was wheeled out, the couple told the priest he was not welcome at their son’s burial.”


40 posted on 12/15/2018 5:58:04 AM PST by sparklite2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abCDr-Q4dNoSee more at Sparklite Times)
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