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Trump campaign finance violation would 'certainly' be impeachable offense, top Dem says
Fox News ^ | 12/9/18 | Gregg Re

Posted on 12/10/2018 12:28:23 AM PST by JonnyFive

The top Democrat expected to lead the House Judiciary Committee next month claimed on Sunday that if President Trump broke campaign finance laws by arranging hush-money payments to mistresses, he would have committed "impeachable offenses ... in the service of fraudulently obtaining the office."

The comments by Rep. Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., on CNN's "State of the Union" were striking in part because the 71-year-old congressman was on the Judiciary Committee when it voted to impeach former President Bill Clinton, which Nadler said at the time was tantamount to an attempted coup and a gross abuse of the impeachment power. The House Judiciary Committee initiates impeachment proceedings before they head to a full floor vote.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: democrats; headfake; impeach; jamescomey; jeromecorsi; jerrynadler; julianassange; lisapage; newyork; peterstrzok; robertmueller; rogerstone; trump; wikileaks
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To: crz

Yep. The impeachment is the cover up, and the real obstruction of justice.


21 posted on 12/10/2018 3:42:34 AM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
The comments by Rep. Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., on CNN's "State of the Union" were striking in part because the 71-year-old congressman was on the Judiciary Committee when it voted to impeach former President Bill Clinton, which Nadler said at the time was tantamount to an attempted coup and a gross abuse of the impeachment power.

22 posted on 12/10/2018 4:05:53 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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NY Democrat Jerry Nadler's comments were striking in part because he was on the Judiciary Committee that voted
to impeach Bill Clinton......at the time Nadler said that vote was tantamount to an attempted coup and a
gross abuse of the House's impeachment power.

NADLER'S INCIPIENT ALZHEIMERS?

freebeacon.com BY: Jack Heretik, August 26, 2018

NY Democrat Jerry Nadler was confronted about his comments–made during former President Bill Clinton's impeachment–saying a president can't commit obstruction of justice. NBC's MTP's Chuck Todd asked Nadler about his past comments, in which he was defending Clinton during the impeachment proceedings against him.".......back in 1999, during the debate about whether or not Bill Clinton obstructed justice, you said at the time you were not convinced that a president could obstruct justice," Todd said. "Do you feel that way, that it's not one of the quote ‘might not be impeachable,’ put it this way, that obstruction of justice might not be an impeachable offense?"

A DEMOCRAT-INDUCED MEMORY---- "Well, I don't remember saying that, but if I said it, I said it, but no, I don't agree with that today. A president, anybody can obstruct justice," Nadler said. "Obstruction of justice under certain circumstances might be an impeachable offense. Remember, there is a very big difference between a crime which may or may not be impeachable and an impeachable offense which doesn't have to be a crime."

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Nadler has been a member of Congress since 1992 and was part to the Clinton impeachment proceedings. In a 1998 floor speech, Nadler said Clinton perjuring himself was not an impeachable offense."Perjury is a serious crime and, if provable, should be prosecuted in a court of law. But it may or may not involve the president’s duties and performance in office. Perjury on a private matter, perjury regarding sex, is not a great and dangerous offense against the Nation. It is not an abuse of uniquely presidential power. It does not threaten our form of government. It is not an impeachable offense," Nalder said.

At the time Nadler said Clinton's perjury with regard to a private sexual affair did not threaten the Constitutional order; it is a crime but was not an impeachable offense. Perjury regarding an attempt by a president to subvert the Constitutional order, to aggrandize power probably, would be an impeachable offense."

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That was then:
Nadler defended Clinton "eloquently," arguing the lewinskied Clinton shouldn't be impeached for lying to conceal his affair with an intern.

This is now:
incoming chair Nadler is itching to impeach Trump using discredited witnesses like porn star Stormy Daniels and her sleaze lawyer Michael Avenatti.

23 posted on 12/10/2018 4:17:42 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Yup!


24 posted on 12/10/2018 4:18:27 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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To: crz

Thanks for posting that.


25 posted on 12/10/2018 4:22:20 AM PST by sneakers (It's not the democraTIC party! It's the demoCRAT party!)
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To: Ikeon
”All PDJT has to do is executive order the house sexual assualt payoff slush fund records to be opened. And if they won’t do it, start a full disclosure investigation and declare openly that there is a fund and how much money goes out.”

I mentioned this in a conversation with friends last week and several of them challenged me with, “how do you know there is such a fund?” Sadly, I could not answer because I don’t know. I have heard it reported many times here on FR, but have never heard what the source is. Can anyone help me out with an answer?

26 posted on 12/10/2018 5:02:42 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: JonnyFive

How are campaign finance laws possibly violated when personal funds are used for for campaign?


27 posted on 12/10/2018 5:18:17 AM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

“This media propaganda is insane.”

Right. And the democraps too.

My understanding -a President can only be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors committed while in office. That being said, since when does the truth or the Constitution matter to the democraps?


28 posted on 12/10/2018 5:25:15 AM PST by Susquehanna Patriot (Evolution is the long term solution to Global Warming. So let's party while we can!)
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To: dowcaet

Here is the thing.....this ongoing coup against DJT is not about him, it is about us, the people who elected him. The swamp considers his election as POTUS an uprising by the people against them, the swamp. They are forcing us into submission.


29 posted on 12/10/2018 5:32:21 AM PST by Toespi
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To: JonnyFive

Nadler sure cannot stick to just one opinion about impeachment, can he?

Seems the only one who isn’t a member of the Deep State in Washington is Trump himself.


30 posted on 12/10/2018 5:36:31 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: JonnyFive

Attempted coup and a gross abuse of the impeachment power.

But they are going to try it anyway big mistake for them,new issues about to jump on them.


31 posted on 12/10/2018 7:35:11 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: JonnyFive

Obama 2008 campaign fined $375,000

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/obama-2008-campaign-fined-375000-085784


32 posted on 12/10/2018 7:37:23 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE
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To: JonnyFive

1. It will be NYState, not Mueller, that may charge Trump with such a violation.

2. It will be a charge, a claim, not a conviction.

3. They will lose - his personal money is not “campaign finances from the campaign funds” and it’s use for “hush money” - hush money over matters that were not themselves illegal, was not illegal to begin with - was not a “campaign expenditure”, regardless of how it may have helped Trump personally.

4. If they manage to bring Trump to court while he is in office, it will end when it is clear they cannot convict him for what was not a crime; and Congress will have nothing for “impeachment”.

5. If they are unable to bring Trump to court while he is in office, there were not only not be a conviction, but there will only be an untried claim, allegation, and Congress will have nothing for “impeachment”.

Yet, that will not stop the Dims from trying to impeach the unimpeachable, not on commtted “high crimes and misdemeanors” but an mere allegations.


33 posted on 12/10/2018 9:02:42 AM PST by Wuli
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