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To: BuddhaBrown; nopardons; Jim Robinson

(Me:) Buddha, you brought up Free Republic not being Conservative Republic...I was merely pointing out that FR truly is a Conservative website and says so on Front Page..., and you even said conservatism does not have an objective definition (note your post):

(You:)
Well, ‘conservative’ does not have an objective definition.

Plus, this is The FREE REPUBLIC. Not the Conservative Republic.

There are plenty of sites devoted to the latter around - well, one less (Weekly Standard) pretty soon. But not so many sites that would advocate a return to a truly originalist Free Republic.

And Trump is not even close to a Free Republic advocate. Domestic policy-wise he is much closer to the typical big government Republican.

(Me:) Seriously, closer to big government Republican? Who has done more to try to reform immigration? Who has done more to roll back EPA regs? Who has done more for average working man? These efforts are not big government Republican in nature...


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“Sorry Buddha...”

I forgive you, my son. Three Hail Mary’s and two 10th amendments. Be absolved.

Kidding aside... go farther!

Read down to what JimRob considers ‘conservative’. Much of it is the opposite of Trump. The emphasis is on constitutionally limited central government.
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(Me:) If this is paragraph ** to which you are referring, I don’t think it conflicts with Trump’s agenda...Have you ever looked at his platform???...I would be happy to pull that up for you, but I think I have provided enough info for the discussion...

**Established in 1996, Free Republic is one of the earliest and largest online gathering places for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We’re working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America. And we always have fun doing it. Hoo-yah!

Seriously, How can you say the points contained in the above paragraph are not Trump’s agenda? He has been rolling back regulations, rooting out fraud, and championing causes that further conservatism such as Constitutionalist Supreme Court Justices, supporting our military, etc. For goodness sake, he is probably the most conservative Pres. we have had—at least since Reagan.
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(You:)
Again, ‘conservative’ can mean whatever you want it to mean. Free Republic is a much more stable concept. And, I think JimRob understands it quite well based on the bulk of the text on the page from which you quoted a greeting rather than a definition.

(Me:) Oh I don’t know, Seems pretty clear to me, but maybe we should ask him?
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(You:) Trump fits some of JimRob’s definition well. But the heart of it is not in Trump’s heart.

(Me:) How do you know Trump’s heart?
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(You:) Though I still very much like most of what he has done. Fortunately, he failed miserably at some things which are anti-Freedom - like TrumpRyanCare.

(Me:) Some of those items were compromises because of his hostile House and Senate leadership...Even though he is the President, he is only one man who has had friction and landmines to plod through since before he was elected. I don’t agree with everything he says or does (who agrees 100% with any one person?). However, I think he is a great job and making lots of progress—I disagree with Tucker on this one and hope it is fake news from WAPO.


295 posted on 12/06/2018 9:02:48 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (#KATE'SWALL Build it Now)
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To: Freedom56v2

Yes, I said it. As much a I love many aspects of the man,
Trump absolutely is a big gov’t guy:

-He pushed TrumpRyanCare and bad-mouth the most Freedom-oriented caucus in the process.

-He loves the other federal entitlements which are opposite of the intentions of the Founder and opposite all the 9th / 10th amendment and Reagan quotes Mr Robinson lists on the Home Page.

-He even likes the godawful corn fuel subsidies.

-He advocates big fed spending on ‘infrastructure’.

De-regulation is great and he is fantastic on that front. But American style Freedom is an individual thing. I want him to essentially de-regulate / free my life from central govt influence/programs the same way he does it for business.

I fail to see what is so complicated about loving the good things about the prez and yet still wanting him to improve on his Freedom-lacking flaws. He is FAR from perfect and worshiping him instead of disciplining him when his is wrong is a big mistake.

You correct the ones you love.

Spare the rod and spoil the Don.


308 posted on 12/06/2018 9:37:49 PM PST by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: Freedom56v2

BRAVA; great post!


312 posted on 12/06/2018 9:45:21 PM PST by nopardons
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