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“Baby, It’s Cold Outside”: Rape or Empowerment? A Christmas song has competing interpretations
1 posted on 12/05/2018 6:25:04 PM PST by Coleus
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The Cleveland station's dropping the song made national news--and, no doubt, FB friends and un-friends worked overtime stirring the pot--putting radio PM's in a pickle: cater to the complainers or suffer the consequences from sponsors.

A Denver program mgr's first reaction was to suspend playing it. This was met with criticism from local talk-show hosts, so his next step was to conduct a listener poll to decide whether "Baby, It's Cold Outside" would stay or go.

That took some nerve, I'm sure. But the results of the poll are reassuring to those of us who remain bitter clingers to tradition, even if a song has no relation to Christmas. For that matter, neither do many other "holiday" tunes, many of which were written by non-Christians.

“Respondents voted 95% in favor of us keeping the song as part of KOSI 101.1’s tradition of playing all of your holiday favorites . .. "

Radio is in stiff competition with Sirius/XM and the internet (e.g. iHeart) for audience. It would be a great loss to ordinary people if a handful of SJW's were to succeed in deballing what remains of local broadcasting. They've already done that to assorted retailers (Target, WalMart, Dick's Sporting Goods) by threatening boycotts if they don't comply. Radio stations are licensed by the FCC, and that can work both ways, for and against. Right now, we have a pro-business FCC, and let's hope it stays that way.

More station managers need to grow a backbone and politely refuse to go all-out PC when confronted by these malcontents.

27 posted on 12/05/2018 8:42:53 PM PST by logician2u
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Try this version...

Red Skelton wants to leave, but Betty Garret sings “baby its cold outside” to get him to stay...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHYqKEAehPU&pbjreload=10


29 posted on 12/05/2018 8:59:08 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Congress: Add clarification that CO2 is a PLANT FOOD, not a pollutant covered by the Clean Air Act)
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I take it STANDING ON THE CORNER WATCHING ALL THE GIRLS GO BY will soon follow.

Brother you can’t go to jail for what you’re thinking
Or for that woo look in your eye
Standing on the corner watching all the girls
Watching all the girls, watching all the girls go by..


30 posted on 12/05/2018 9:28:37 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Anerica has gone mad.


32 posted on 12/05/2018 9:37:10 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true; I have no proof .... but they're true.)
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I was trying to download a ring-tone and I accidentally got a hip-hop song with the N-word complete with frequent references to doing nasty stuff to women which is truly criminal. It was amazing how they were able to pack so many truly offending words in just one ring-tone. Now, think of that song while you watch this rendition of the Christmas song in question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MFJ7ie_yGU


35 posted on 12/05/2018 9:57:07 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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Sad to say, that song was written back when men were men, women were women, and homo's stayed in the closet. Just stating facts.

There were far fewer rapes, far fewer suicides, far fewer divorces and far fewer children raised in broken homes when that song was written.

Would but that we could return to such days...

38 posted on 12/05/2018 11:06:20 PM PST by Gargantua (The wheel is spinnin' and it can't slow down... ;^)
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This is just all about destroying America and all Americana in order to bring in “diversity” and communism.

He who controls the language controls the unbiverse.

Don’t fall for this crap. See a liberal, say something.


39 posted on 12/05/2018 11:40:32 PM PST by RArtfulogerDodger (peace, Love, and Joy To All, Especially Obama and Democrats)
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I bet this Glenn Anderson jughead won’t have a problem with the song in the future if it’s recorded by two “gay” guys or two lesbos. What a crock.


43 posted on 12/06/2018 2:29:33 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (#NotARussianBot)
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IT’S NOT A CHRISTMAS CAROL!


44 posted on 12/06/2018 2:32:30 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Trump: "In the meantime, I'm president and you're not!")
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Bet they back Stormy Daniels though.....


45 posted on 12/06/2018 3:44:20 AM PST by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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some women at Jezebel defended Aziz Ansari after a woman revealed that he repeated made unwanted advances (grabbing her hand and pulling it to his bare crotch, blocking the door, etc. etc.). Feminazis just called it “sloppy technique” and not date rape or sexual harassment.

this one opted to blame the messenger (Babe website) for “sloppy technique” in how they sought and brought this story to light, saying that it fumbled the discussion.

https://jezebel.com/babe-what-are-you-doing-1822114753

Late Saturday evening, the website Babe.net published a detailed account of an encounter between “Grace,” an anonymous 23-year-old photographer, and the actor Aziz Ansari. It described a September 2017 incident in which Grace says that she and Ansari went on a date after first meeting at an Emmys afterparty, and how, at the end of the date, Grace said Ansari coerced her into sexual behavior that was well beyond her boundaries, ignoring her verbal and nonverbal attempts to stop their sexual exchange. After the date, she told Babe, she texted Ansari and told him that she had been uncomfortable with the experience, and that he should have been more mindful; the website published screenshots of the text exchange. By Sunday afternoon, Ansari had issued a statement confirming their exchange, and reiterating his support for the #MeToo movement...

and this woman opted to blame the messenger

https://jezebel.com/its-time-to-map-the-wilderness-of-bad-sex-1822171954

“It took a really long time for me to validate this as sexual assault,” an anonymous 23-year-old woman going by the name Grace recently told the website Babe.net. By now, Grace’s story is widely known, its excruciating details, including her allegation that she was sexually assaulted by actor and comedian Aziz Ansari, have been analyzed, criticized, and defended from nearly every angle. Depending on who’s talking, Grace’s account is either a referendum on the limits of #MeToo or evidence of its inevitable backlash. It is a crucible for everything from journalistic standards to affirmative consent, power dynamics, and Ansari himself. Grace’s story has become a tabula rasa, inscribed on it a range of questions—both inevitably difficult and absurd—declarations, and, (inevitably) politics...

...As the responses to Grace’s story rolled in, the animating force behind many of them was a need to preserve the boundaries of this unmapped territory with rhetorical clarity. Grace’s perception was quickly invalidated, labeled instead as little more than “bad sex.” In a misguided response, CNN’s Ashleigh Banfield defined Grace’s experience as a “bad date” that was “unpleasant.” It did not, Banfield noted, send Grace “to the police,” nor did it “affect your workplace or your ability to get a job.” The New York Times’s Bari Weiss wrote that Grace’s story was an “insidious attempt...to criminalize awkward, gross and entitled sex,” while the Washington Post described Ansari’s behavior as “unattractive.” The National Review, always clear in its politics, warned in a headline: “Feminists, Stop Bad Sex Before It Happens.” A linguistic wall was quickly established around the chasm, exchanging assault for “bad sex,” barricading neat narratives from the complex power dynamic that hazily defines the “sex he takes.”

...The response to Grace’s story (not to be confused with Babe’s telling of that story) is a backlash in its own right; an enforcement of boundaries, a termination of the wrong kind of conversation. It gestures wildly that #MeToo should not enter that chasm because it is a wilderness, dangerous and unchartered, it could be deadly. And yet, that is exactly the territory #MeToo needs to occupy. #MeToo needs to enter the chasm and map its boundaries and label what resides there. It needs to ask whether or not we’re content with the physical and narrative shapelessness of the chasm.


47 posted on 12/06/2018 5:45:00 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committtee)
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