Like most Freepers, I write a lot and I hate to make mistakes.
That said, I regularly make the mistake of using i.e. when I should use e.g. and I almost always forget the comma after using either of them.
Anyway I found this little refresher course interesting and I thought youse guys might also.
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33 posted on
12/05/2018 1:12:00 PM PST by
granite
(The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.Ecclesiastes 10:2)
To: RoosterRedux
My dad had Latin while in high school at De La Salle in Detroit. The only other person I know who had Latin was my nephew at a private school in Michigan......He earned an honors award.
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As a writer, I thank you for posting this for readers.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been asked about both!
36 posted on
12/05/2018 1:19:32 PM PST by
logi_cal869
(-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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38 posted on
12/05/2018 1:28:10 PM PST by
CodeToad
( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
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I always remembered which is which because “example” has a “g” in it...
40 posted on
12/05/2018 1:38:36 PM PST by
Lite
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No problem. I knew the difference.
What grates on my ear is the incorrect use of “xxx and I” when “xxx and me” is called for. Many otherwise intelligent speakers are so paranoid about using the “xxx and me” formulation that they dump it and use “xxx and I” for every occasion. It sounds classier, I suppose. But it’s still wrong.
42 posted on
12/05/2018 1:45:15 PM PST by
sparklite2
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46 posted on
12/05/2018 2:08:43 PM PST by
old-ager
To: RoosterRedux
When pronouncing the word example aloud, you might use a g sound in place of the x. Many people do. This can help you remember the abbreviations meaning. I always thought it stood for "example given" which is easy to remember. In that vein i.e. could be "in essence" which fits the meaning and is also easy to remember.
48 posted on
12/05/2018 2:11:15 PM PST by
Hugin
("Not one step rom his weapons should a traveler take"...Havamal 38)
To: RoosterRedux
Thank you. I needed that refresher course.
49 posted on
12/05/2018 2:14:05 PM PST by
Duchess47
("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
To: RoosterRedux
Thank you!
I’ve been using “i.e.” for years, and was pretty sure I was using it properly.
Thanks to your post, I know I HAVE been using it properly!
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Don't forget to remember the correct usage of "et al." too. (That, of course, means to eat it all. That brings to mind that old TV commercial, where the guy said,
"I can't believe I ate the whole thing". He could have reworded that sentence to simply say, "I can't believe I et al. of it".
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Interesting. I write a lot and read one book a week. I never write i.e or e.g. and rarely see authors that do.
For example, Bret Harte is a wonderful writer who does not use "e.g. or i.e", that is, abbreviations for premise indicators.
55 posted on
12/05/2018 2:58:14 PM PST by
Falconspeed
("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94)t)
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This is a minor problem compared with the lose/loose dichotomy.
58 posted on
12/05/2018 3:04:05 PM PST by
Fresh Wind
(Trump: "In the meantime, I'm president and you're not!")
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Additional info.:
BizWritingTip response:
You are absolutely correct. Writers often ignore the necessary punctuation. The abbreviations i.e. and e.g. are considered interrupting words within a sentence and require punctuation on both sides to indicate this. You must put a comma or a bracket (parentheses) before the abbreviation and a comma after.
The abbreviation i.e. (from the Latin id est meaning that is) means everything that follows.
Examples (correct)
My business plans involve trips to several cities, i.e., Toronto, Montreal, Winnipeg, Saskatoon, and Calgary.
My business plans involve trips to several cities (i.e., Toronto, Montreal, Winnipeg, Saskatoon, and Calgary).
61 posted on
12/05/2018 3:13:22 PM PST by
21twelve
(!)
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I also see "et. al." and "etc." mixed up often.
"Ergo" is often misused.
And then there's the matter of latin plurals, such as "media", "data", and even "stadia."
It doesn't pay to be too much of a purist.
Quod erat demonstrandum.
68 posted on
12/05/2018 4:14:38 PM PST by
IronJack
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Two of those sample sentences need an additional em dash to avoid possible confusion. You have to make sure the i.e. and the e.g. are stuck to the proper phrase, not the one preceding.
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Will this be on the final?
84 posted on
12/05/2018 9:25:10 PM PST by
NonValueAdded
(#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
To: RoosterRedux
I.e. stands for id est, which means in other words. Actually 'id est' means 'that is.'
It's similar in meaning to 'in other words', except that, literally, it means 'that is'.
86 posted on
12/05/2018 11:07:38 PM PST by
tinyowl
(A is A)
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Alas, this reminds me of Latin with Mr. Bernaur, translating Marshal epigrams, and my favorite one:
Linus, You ask me how my farm can pay,
Since little it will bear;
It pays me thus. Tis far away
And you are never there.
87 posted on
12/05/2018 11:12:00 PM PST by
tinyowl
(A is A)
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