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Like most Freepers, I write a lot and I hate to make mistakes.

That said, I regularly make the mistake of using i.e. when I should use e.g. and I almost always forget the comma after using either of them.

Anyway I found this little refresher course interesting and I thought youse guys might also.

1 posted on 12/05/2018 12:19:28 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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e.g. = example given


33 posted on 12/05/2018 1:12:00 PM PST by granite (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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My dad had Latin while in high school at De La Salle in Detroit. The only other person I know who had Latin was my nephew at a private school in Michigan......He earned an honors award.


34 posted on 12/05/2018 1:15:41 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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As a writer, I thank you for posting this for readers.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been asked about both!


36 posted on 12/05/2018 1:19:32 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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You fail capitalization.


38 posted on 12/05/2018 1:28:10 PM PST by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
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I always remembered which is which because “example” has a “g” in it...


40 posted on 12/05/2018 1:38:36 PM PST by Lite
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No problem. I knew the difference.

What grates on my ear is the incorrect use of “xxx and I” when “xxx and me” is called for. Many otherwise intelligent speakers are so paranoid about using the “xxx and me” formulation that they dump it and use “xxx and I” for every occasion. It sounds classier, I suppose. But it’s still wrong.


42 posted on 12/05/2018 1:45:15 PM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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Yup


46 posted on 12/05/2018 2:08:43 PM PST by old-ager
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When pronouncing the word “example” aloud, you might use a “g” sound in place of the “x.” Many people do. This can help you remember the abbreviation’s meaning.

I always thought it stood for "example given" which is easy to remember. In that vein i.e. could be "in essence" which fits the meaning and is also easy to remember.

48 posted on 12/05/2018 2:11:15 PM PST by Hugin ("Not one step rom his weapons should a traveler take"...Havamal 38)
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Thank you. I needed that refresher course.


49 posted on 12/05/2018 2:14:05 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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Thank you!

I’ve been using “i.e.” for years, and was pretty sure I was using it properly.

Thanks to your post, I know I HAVE been using it properly!


51 posted on 12/05/2018 2:22:29 PM PST by Peter W. Kessler ("NUTS!!!")
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Thanks.


52 posted on 12/05/2018 2:44:14 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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Don't forget to remember the correct usage of "et al." too.   (That, of course, means to eat it all.   That brings to mind that old TV commercial, where the guy said, "I can't believe I ate the whole thing".   He could have reworded that sentence to simply say, "I can't believe I et al. of it".

53 posted on 12/05/2018 2:54:20 PM PST by Songcraft
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Interesting. I write a lot and read one book a week. I never write i.e or e.g. and rarely see authors that do.

For example, Bret Harte is a wonderful writer who does not use "e.g. or i.e", that is, abbreviations for premise indicators.
55 posted on 12/05/2018 2:58:14 PM PST by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94)t)
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This is a minor problem compared with the lose/loose dichotomy.


58 posted on 12/05/2018 3:04:05 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Trump: "In the meantime, I'm president and you're not!")
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Additional info.:

BizWritingTip response:

You are absolutely correct. Writers often ignore the necessary punctuation. The abbreviations “i.e.” and “e.g.” are considered interrupting words within a sentence and require punctuation on both sides to indicate this. You must put a comma or a bracket (parentheses) before the abbreviation and a comma after.

The abbreviation “i.e.” (from the Latin “id est” meaning “that is”) means everything that follows.

Examples (correct)
My business plans involve trips to several cities, i.e., Toronto, Montreal, Winnipeg, Saskatoon, and Calgary.
My business plans involve trips to several cities (i.e., Toronto, Montreal, Winnipeg, Saskatoon, and Calgary).


61 posted on 12/05/2018 3:13:22 PM PST by 21twelve (!)
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I also see "et. al." and "etc." mixed up often.

"Ergo" is often misused.

And then there's the matter of latin plurals, such as "media", "data", and even "stadia."

It doesn't pay to be too much of a purist.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

68 posted on 12/05/2018 4:14:38 PM PST by IronJack
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Two of those sample sentences need an additional em dash to avoid possible confusion. You have to make sure the i.e. and the e.g. are stuck to the proper phrase, not the one preceding.


76 posted on 12/05/2018 5:02:47 PM PST by firebrand
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Will this be on the final?


84 posted on 12/05/2018 9:25:10 PM PST by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
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I.e. stands for “id est,” which means “in other words.”

Actually 'id est' means 'that is.'

It's similar in meaning to 'in other words', except that, literally, it means 'that is'.

86 posted on 12/05/2018 11:07:38 PM PST by tinyowl (A is A)
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Alas, this reminds me of Latin with Mr. Bernaur, translating Marshal epigrams, and my favorite one:

Linus, You ask me how my farm can pay,
Since little it will bear;

It pays me thus. — ’Tis far away
And you are never there.

87 posted on 12/05/2018 11:12:00 PM PST by tinyowl (A is A)
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