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Officer shot man mistaken for mall gunman three times from behind, family attorney says
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Posted on 12/03/2018 10:53:07 AM PST by BenLurkin

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To: fella

Some LEOs are over eager to put notches on their guns

I don’t think it’s that, most are just not the well-trained machine that the left tries to tell us they are when pushing gun control!

I have been a pretty successful competitive handgun shooter since I was just our of college, at the very best, the average LEO is slightly worse than the average guy walking into a gun shop. If the officer is an enthusiastic ‘gun guy’ they will be skilled and professional, if not, they lack confidence and skills, which leads to these ‘shoot first and sort it out later’ events.


21 posted on 12/03/2018 12:50:54 PM PST by nobamanomore
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IF he had his gun OUT in his hand, while he was pushing people “to safety”, to a police officer it could have looked like he was rounding up hostages.

If so, it would be reasonable to shoot him from behind.

Tragic, but reasonable. You might even argue that he couldn’t yell “stop, put your hands up”, because of the fear that the “gunman” would just start shooting his hostages.

I have no idea if the person had his gun out at the time. But as much as it is “legal” to have your gun out, at that point it may be the thing that causes a fatal mistake.


22 posted on 12/03/2018 1:18:30 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SuperLuminal

Actually there are still very few; you just hear about every single one of them now, because of advances in communications, and the hyper-focus on evil cops and implied racism.


23 posted on 12/03/2018 1:19:32 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: TalonDJ

And its not thst I dont think he had good intentions or anything like that. Its that a good guy responding this way can be shot by cops who have no idea if they are a criminal, or defending against criminals.


24 posted on 12/03/2018 1:23:58 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: nobamanomore

no...many cops are former military and its hard to untrain them to become peace officers. How much you wanna bet this cop was prior service Marine or Army?


25 posted on 12/03/2018 2:27:55 PM PST by I got the rope
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“no...many cops are former military and its hard to untrain them to become peace officers. How much you wanna bet this cop was prior service Marine or Army?”

I don’t think many people think about the past training of law enforcement officers and how it affects their behavior.

Our county just elected a new sheriff and one of the first things on his agenda is hiring more deputy sheriffs. Good, we need them. However hubby is concerned because his pool will be from the prison system.

Hubby warned me when he heard it, be extremely careful if I’m pulled over in the future, because I will be dealing with someone trained to be a bully, expecting instant obedience.

I can understand that very well. One son is ten year prison guard, his nature now automatically is intimidating, and he automatically expects his opinion to be right and accepted.

Other son is ex-law enforcement, deputy sheriff. His training was much more extensive, focusing on law, rights, and respect for community. Much focus on de-escalating a situation.

Hubby is ex-military, MP, and ex-Federal Law Enforcement and then ex-security.

I can clearly see the differences on how they all handle people.


26 posted on 12/03/2018 2:53:22 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: mass55th

Good advice.


27 posted on 12/03/2018 4:50:39 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: I got the rope

I doubt that. It’s not from military training, it’s a lack of training and bad judgment.


28 posted on 12/05/2018 4:45:50 AM PST by nobamanomore
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