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To: Jack Black

Just curious, when to Cohen go to prison? Maybe you’re confused.
President Trump is impotent?? No, you have an odd take on reality.


781 posted on 11/29/2018 10:32:49 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
No, Jack just has "prescience envy"
("prescience"=="foreknowing" since as Q says "future proves past.")
802 posted on 11/29/2018 11:20:15 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
Just curious, when to Cohen go to prison? Maybe you’re confused

Maybe I am. Usually when you plead guilty to a dozen felonies, there is a sentencing hearing fairly quickly. Manafort and he both took guilty pleas on the same day, Manafort is in prison.

But in his case, even though he pleaded guilty in August that hearing may not have taken place yet because he's still ratting out Trump to both Federal and State prosecutors. Which we only learned about after I posted my comments.

Just today he pleaded guilty to new charges of Lying to Congress about his contact with Russia, so he's still not done with the "cooperate to reduce sentence phase", apparently.

It was widely reported that he was expecting to go to prison for a long time - back in August.

Cohen accepts 'he's going to go to jail for some time'

“THE MAN HAS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY”: AWAITING SENTENCING, COHEN GRAPPLES WITH TRUMP’S GOOD LUCK

I found this one from a few days ago, so apparently he has not yet been sentenced on the first set of guilty pleas:

Michael Cohen faces a stern disciplinarian as he awaits sentencing

Judge known for lengthy sentences for white-collar offenders If Cohen is hoping for leniency, he may be out of luck with US District Judge William Pauley III, according to attorneys who have had cases before him.

"He has a very formal approach and he is not someone who takes things lightly," Harry Sandick, a former federal prosecutor in the Manhattan US Attorney's office who has appeared before Pauley, "and in his white-collar sentences he gives long sentences, usually consistent with the guidelines."

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In Cohen's case, one of the factors that may negatively impact the judge's view of his crimes, said those who have appeared before Pauley, is that Cohen is himself an attorney.

"I think Judge Pauley is going to look at him as an intelligent person who had plenty of means. He wasn't compelled into criminality by the way he was raised," said Elie Honig, a former federal prosecutor and CNN legal analyst who had cases before Pauley, "and I think Judge Pauley is going to be particularly bothered by the fact that Michael Cohen committed these crimes ... at least some of them, in his capacity as a lawyer."

Indeed, the guideline range in Cohen's plea agreement already contains what is known as an enhancement, or extra penalty, because he "used a special skill -- to wit, his education, training and licensing as an attorney in New York State -- in a manner that significantly facilitated the commission and concealment of the offense." Pauley can speak to that in court and take it into consideration as much as he chooses, and "in some of his sentencings he has been particularly concerned about people who are in a position to follow the law, and don't," Sandick said.

Another factor that is sometimes given significant weight is deterrence. Judges consider what's known as specific deterrence — whether the sentence will cause the defendant himself to avoid the act in the future -- as well as general deterrence— whether the sentence will deter others from committing similar crimes.

Pauley, according to former prosecutors, is adamant about the ability of a tough sentence to deter similar misbehavior.

"Judge Pauley is a strong deterrence judge," said Honig. "He believes that every sentence he gives has to punish the person in front of him, but also send a message to others." In Cohen's case, the judge must consider what sentence will serve to dissuade not only potential offenders of campaign-finance laws, but also those tempted to commit tax fraud or lie to a bank.

And finally, a judge will often weigh whether a defendant has demonstrated an appropriate level of remorse for their behavior. Pauley isn't known to give heavy consideration to that element, according to people who have appeared before him, but it will likely arise in the court filings that are due from both prosecutors and Cohen's defense counsel, particularly since Cohen's plea agreement contains a provision that he will receive a reduction in his sentence "assuming the defendant clearly demonstrates acceptance of responsibility, to the satisfaction of the Government."

So, not in yet, but probably going in for at least 4 years, plus what ever additonal time this morning's plea for lying to Congress adds on.

866 posted on 11/29/2018 12:52:28 PM PST by Jack Black ("If you believe in things that you don't understand than you suffer" - "Superstition",Stevie Wonder)
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