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Cesar Sayoc: Questions and what comes next?
Vanity | 10/26/18 | yesthatjallen

Posted on 10/26/2018 8:50:32 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

It's late and it's been a long day.

When I first heard about the mail bombs I wanted to believe it was a Democrat agent provocateur but the more I thought about it I came to believe it would he a Trump supporter.

But I have questions.

If Cesar Sayoc is a Trump true believer, why did he do it and why did he do it now?

The conclusion I come to is he has emotional/psychological issues, a low IQ, or a mix of both.

Anyone with average intelligence, who wasn't crazy, and who supported Trump, would not have done this because they would know this would hurt Trump and Republicans in the midterms.

So why did he do it and why did he do it now?

The only other reasons I can come up with are he's an innocent pasty who was set up or he's a crisis actor playing his part in a very elaborate 'Deep State' hoax.

Regardless, what comes next?

How do Republicans and Trump get past this? What is our next move? How do we answer people who will use Cesar Sayoc against us?

What questions, theories, and observations do you have about what transpired today?

(Apologies for the vanity. I hope I expressed my ideas clearly enough to have a discussion).


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To: yesthatjallen

Good thing Cesar Psyop didn’t send a picture of a gun. /s


41 posted on 10/26/2018 9:54:54 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Darksheare

vandalized page


42 posted on 10/26/2018 9:55:42 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 2)
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To: Drew68

No NRA stickers or a Confederate flag? Did the DNC prep team run out of room?


43 posted on 10/26/2018 9:59:23 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: NFHale
The pro-Trump stickers are not stickers at all, but professionally-created, poster-sized collages designed to perfectly fit in each one of the van’s windows....”

Good ammo, got some backup for that?

44 posted on 10/26/2018 10:01:12 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69
No NRA stickers or a Confederate flag? Did the DNC prep team run out of room?

According to the pizza joint he used to work for that van used to be covered with KKK and white supremacist stickers.

They made him park it away from the business.

He's a neat freak. Showers at the gym.

When stickers or decals get old he removes them.

Still looks like it has some dings though.

45 posted on 10/26/2018 10:02:55 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: MaxistheBest
Just because the guy seems crazy, doesn’t mean he is that stupid to cause this kind of damage to the very people he wants to see elected.

Can't spell, can't calculate postage. Can't build a functional device.

Why can't he be crazy and stupid?

46 posted on 10/26/2018 10:04:38 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: EdnaMode

Agree, but the fact is there are a few nuts on our side (it just takes one) and many more on the left,but the media won’t replay those on left, and this won’t play well for midterms. Hopefully this fades a bit.


47 posted on 10/26/2018 10:05:02 PM PDT by TECTopcat (TopCat)
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To: yesthatjallen

It’s the left that has engaged in political violence for over two years now. This is a good time to enforce the law and start putting these people in jail.


48 posted on 10/26/2018 10:06:03 PM PDT by ArcadeQuarters ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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To: yesthatjallen

“Everything about socialism is sham and affectation.” - 23.11; Ch23 Evil; Economic Harmonies; Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850)


49 posted on 10/26/2018 10:06:44 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: EdnaMode
That's what stick out to me.

IF he WAS a Trump supporter why did he do this and do this now?

He's either as dense as lead (which seems likely to me), out of his mind, or this is an October Surprise hit on Trump and Republicans a week out from the midterms.

I just can't grasp why a real Trump supporter would think this was a good idea at this time.

Dumb, nut-job, or plant.

And I saw his Twitter page before it was removed.

He didn't update much and he wasn't following his own alleged activities.

If he was the one doing it, I would think he would be following the story closely. He may have been but he wasn't updating his alleged activities on Twitter.

(This is yet another example of why Twitter, Facebook, et al shouldn't remove entries)

50 posted on 10/26/2018 10:06:56 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

FBI did it now. Cesar was the patsy.

FBI strings along suspects for years until they are needed.
The FBI framer works alongside the patsy.

The FBI are Democrats who work for the deep state, not you.

The FBI destroys evidence when it is against the deep state. Vegas killer shot 500 people, and all video was destroyed.

Cesar fake bomber, no bombs, is useful to the deep state, so evidence is made public, even fabricated.

FBI is the Enemy of the People.


51 posted on 10/26/2018 10:07:19 PM PDT by TheNext (Anonymous Source)
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To: Snickering Hound
But it won’t stop the conspiracy theorists here who just can’t stand the thought that he could possibly be a bomber and have to come up with some wacked out theories instead.

I'll admit in the beginning to embracing the false flag scenario that Rush Limbaugh was promoting but then yesterday Scott Adams (Dilbert), a man whose intellect I respect, postulated that given the choices between lone RW nutjob and super clever Democrat false flag mission, one of these scenarios was more likely to be true. At that point I considered that Adams was probably correct and was not surprised by the events of today.

The way I see it, just because someone voted for Trump does not by default make them honorable or virtuous. In a country of 330 million, there's a lot of crazies out there who slip through the cracks. Sure, most of them vote for Democrats but not all of them. We've got a few over here as well.

I'd bet this guy was delusional enough that he probably thought he'd get an invite to the White House out of it, that President Trump would put him in charge of something to repay his loyalty and courage. Crazies are crazy that way and he likely truly believed he was supporting the President's agenda.

52 posted on 10/26/2018 10:07:31 PM PDT by Drew68 (Twitter @TheRealDrew68 https://twitter.com/TheRealDrew68)
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

From your link I went to the post where the van was caught without the trump regalia. Interrresting.


53 posted on 10/26/2018 10:10:27 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Henchster

How did a felon register to vote as a Republican and what was his prior party affiliation?


54 posted on 10/26/2018 10:12:13 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: Henchster

One of the photos showed him standing in front of a group of black Trump supporters. I think the photo was created to tarnish black support for Trump/Republicans.

It wasn’t a group photo where he was shaking hands with them or hugging them or posing with them. It’s almost “get a load of this!”


55 posted on 10/26/2018 10:14:19 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: yesthatjallen

Pubs need to do the nasty and declare FBI planted the DNA>>>>>>>


56 posted on 10/26/2018 10:14:37 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (spooks won on day 76)
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To: Drew68
I'll admit in the beginning to embracing the false flag scenario that Rush Limbaugh was promoting but then yesterday Scott Adams (Dilbert), a man whose intellect I respect, postulated that given the choices between lone RW nutjob and super clever Democrat false flag mission, one of these scenarios was more likely to be true. At that point I considered that Adams was probably correct and was not surprised by the events of today.

I'm starting to wonder about Limbaugh and the onset of dementia. He started talking about Clockmed and was way, way off on what he did. He just seems off lately.

The way I see it, just because someone voted for Trump does not by default make them honorable or virtuous. In a country of 330 million, there's a lot of crazies out there who slip through the cracks. Sure, most of them vote for Democrats but not all of them. We've got a few over here as well.

The vast majority of people who voted for Trump are great people. Doesn't mean there can't be some crazies.

Charles Guiteau, who assassinated Garfield in 1881, was a loon who believed his successor Chester Arthur would reward him for the deed.

Also thought Garfield owed him for a speech he wrote that he believed got him elected. That he never delivered. And had Grants name scratched out and Garfield's filled in.

57 posted on 10/26/2018 10:16:16 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

the orlando shooter was an Obama voting muslim but the original spin was he was a right wing Christian


58 posted on 10/26/2018 10:16:28 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

the orlando shooter made his motive clear in his phone calls during the attack. He was angry at Obama’s drone strikes on muslim nations


59 posted on 10/26/2018 10:17:21 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: a fool in paradise
How did a felon register to vote as a Republican and what was his prior party affiliation?

State Government can't be incompetent and neglect to inform the election board that they have a new felon?

A better question is just how many convicted felons are still on Florida's voter rolls.

60 posted on 10/26/2018 10:18:04 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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