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1 posted on 10/22/2018 12:48:55 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Oh dear. Left-wing government employees got conned by politicians. There’s a new one.


2 posted on 10/22/2018 12:50:46 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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Is it only a crisis in the SEC or also in the Big Ten, Pac-12, Big 12, Ivy League and other conferences?


3 posted on 10/22/2018 12:53:27 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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All we need to do is raise taxes to pay for the pensions!

Problem solved!

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9 posted on 10/22/2018 1:07:43 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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Most pension funds invest the money they receive from future pensioners in the stock market.

If the Democrats win the upcoming election, the stock market will fall, further endangering the already shaky pension funds and their future pensioners’ prospects of receiving any money when they retire.

So the last thing prospective pensioners — almost all of them Democrats — should do is vote Democratic.

But if any of them were intelligent enough to understand this, they’d be Republicans by now.


11 posted on 10/22/2018 1:15:47 PM PDT by humbleexpert
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This was the RAT plan from the beginning


12 posted on 10/22/2018 1:16:19 PM PDT by 11th_VA ("When passions are most inflamed, fairness is most in jeopardy." - Susan Collins)
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I think they should ban pensions for states and municipalities and instead go with fully funded 401ks. If there is matching with delayed vesting the matching amount has to be funded from the start.

And they should allow health savings accounts for anyone whether they have alternatives through work or not.


13 posted on 10/22/2018 1:17:44 PM PDT by DannyTN
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I think they should ban pensions for states and municipalities and instead go with fully funded 401ks. If there is matching with delayed vesting the matching amount has to be funded from the start.

And they should allow health savings accounts for anyone whether they have alternatives through work or not.


14 posted on 10/22/2018 1:17:44 PM PDT by DannyTN
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I think they should ban pensions for states and municipalities and instead go with fully funded 401ks. If there is matching with delayed vesting the matching amount has to be funded from the start.

And they should allow health savings accounts for anyone whether they have alternatives through work or not.


15 posted on 10/22/2018 1:17:45 PM PDT by DannyTN
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Nobody could see this coming. 15 years ago.


17 posted on 10/22/2018 1:27:56 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To be honest, this entire thread and every single other thread on the topic belongs in chat.
No exceptions.

In the nineteen sixties and nineteen seventies the topic of unfunded pensions was debated ad nauseam in the Tulsa World (democrat morning paper) and in the Tulsa Tribune (republican evening paper) and people either fell into the camp of “this will eventually crash and burn” or “by the time this is a problem a new source of money will magically appear”. The folks who took the latter position really meant that they would be long dead or at least out of office when the crash came.

Here we are.
Water is wet.
The sun rises in the east.
Things not paid for collapse.
All of which are proper topics for chat, and not one of which is in any way, shape, or form news.


23 posted on 10/22/2018 2:38:09 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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Very glad my pension and health insurance are covered by the federal government, not a state or local government.


25 posted on 10/22/2018 3:06:05 PM PDT by Poundstone (A Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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If the Fed raises interest rates, a big chunk of the pension crisis will go away. Low yields are a major component.


26 posted on 10/22/2018 3:33:34 PM PDT by PAR35
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