Posted on 10/05/2018 4:57:42 AM PDT by GailA
STREET JUNKIES DREAM BILL
“We’ve seen the rise of powerful synthetic drugs like fentanyl that have the potential to make an already terrible problem worse. Exposure to miniscule amounts can have deadly consequences for users as well as first responders. That’s why this bill takes a broad-spectrum approach to meet the opioid crisis head on.”
“The bill reauthorizes critical substance abuse prevention programs, expands access to treatment and provides law enforcement with tools to stop the trafficking of illicit substances.”
The bill certainly gives more attention to treatment of addiction – creating a grant program to comprehensive recovery centers that include housing and job training and would also increase access to “medication-assisted” treatment to help people with substance abuse disorders wean themselves.
But it is silent on the chronic pain issue and the patients who use opioids to manage their pain—again pointing out the lack of attention that elected officials are giving to the 100 million Americans who have chronic pain.
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalpainreport.com ...
Bummer. I was at home with one of them writhing on the floor trying (unsuccessfully) to find a position that didn't hurt, when a friend called and wanted to chat - I figured it wasn't going to hurt any worse if I talked so we talked about guns for an hour or so. Another time I was at work - about a mile from the ER and drove myself there - I had to stick my head out the car window to puke at one point, but I got to the ER, parked and eventually got to see the doctor who said "You have a kidney stone." No sh!t Sherlock! Anyway it passed while I was there and I drove home. The other times were less amusing.
I wonder if the cartels like or don’t like this bill. Short term I could see them liking it, because shorterm maybe more will go look for their product on the street. Long term maybe it’s not good for them, because maybe less potential customers will get in the pipeline by having opiods prescribed.
The conspiracy theorist in me wonders about the funding for Narcan, ha.
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I had just moved 600 miles for a new job. Family was still home. I’d only been here a week or two and didn’t know anyone at all.
Did the writhing in pain bit for a day, finally went to hospital. Didn’t have insurance yet so I tried to hold off.
They gave me some sort of IV that felt REALLY good. Did some tests and confirmed then sent me home to my fate.
They asked who was driving me home and I told them I was driving. They asked if I had any idea what sort of drugs they gave me. I said “Outside of being really good, I’ve got no idea.”
They pointed me toward a chair and told me to sit there for four hours. Sure, I’ll get right on that
The next day, I was still passing stones. My uncle flew in to drive me back home for Christmas.
I called my aunt as they were getting ready to head to the airport and asked if my uncle knew how to drive a stick shift. I had to teach him while passing stones. Yea, that was fun too.
Tony- I will add Your Wife and You to My Prayers. I know what it is like to be in constant pain.
nikos1121- BTW I am NOT a Diabetic A1C is 5.4, Glucose is almost always in the “Textbook” range of 80 to 120 unless I just ate a half a box of Sugar Frosted Flakes or something like that.
And yes I now have to go to a damned Legalized Drug Dealer (aka Pain Clinic) to the tune of several hundred dollars every month.
The worst words to hear: “I’m from the government and here to help”
They can’t even balance a checkbook, they damned sure need to stay out of medicine !!!
I do not work for the gov’t. How did you get that idea? I don’t like the gov’t involved with medicine either, but the opioid problem is a drug problem. These drugs are coming in illegally, and the prescriptions of them are being abused by some doctors.
This is strictly a crock. 100 million people suffering from chronic pain that require opioids to survive. Bunk. It is not possible and it is not even reasonable to consider treating long term pain with an addictive narcotic. If you do you will have just what we have, a nation of junkies. These drugs are for short term intense pain such as post surgical or accident while healing can take place.
Most people around here have not got a pot to pee in or a window to throw it out of but we have TWO thriving “Pain” clinics here. Obamacare created this mess by providing unlimited medical care access to the poor. The drugs they get from unscrupulous doctors provide an income stream and the doctors make money. Pain clinics, pfft, nothing but a dishonest money making racket.
The doc on this thread is correct, four pain pills per day makes a person unworkable because you can’t work a junkie.
I know something about pain that stays with you. Lifting way too much when I was a kid, rodeoing, broken bones, repetitive stress injury from too many years at a keyboard have all taken their toll and yet I go on with only aspirin and maybe ibuprofen but it takes awhile to straighten up and get moving.
I went for my physical last week. Every time the doc asks if I have pain and I reply, “Of course.” Then he asks if I want something for it and I say no but he persists a pill will make it all better as if he is pushing drugs. We need to take fewer drugs not more. The chemical cocktail the some take was never considered in the drug interaction trials.
I don’t respect the medical industry but there are some respectful people in it. It is self-serving with built in conflicts of interest. This became automatic when it moved to a for profit status across the board. To get respect you need to behave respectfully. A respectful industry would self-police and shut down the pain clinics and not push drugs every night on national TV ads. It is not the military industrial complex we should fear, it is the medical industrial complex that is bent on shaking every last cent from our pockets before we die and stealing the nickels out of our eyes after we are dead. It is an industry that justifies its actions by holding us hostage because it and life are indispensable and infinitely valuable. Thing is, so are the services many others provide.
If only sick people used the medical services and only necessary and effective procedures were done it would be a much more effective but less lucrative business. Back surgery is the hysterectomy of the day and I’m sure there are other rackets just like it. An operation that costs $85,000 or more with a 35% questionable success rate. Only a charlatan would hold that out except to the most dire circumstances.
Opioids are at the heart of a racket to make money and it has gone out of control. Life has never been pain free but it has been drug free for most in times past and still we survived.
I’m happy to hear that. Did you use a McKenzie Therapist?
Amen to that!
I spent 5.5 years on My first application for SSDI all the way up to Hearings and the next step would have been to file a lawsuit.
My Attorney told Me We would Refile and it would probably go through. It did in 6 months.
I applied for severe neuropathy both times. I was awarded (as they call it) SSDI for A-Fib... Go figure.
So try Refiling. Good luck !
No surgeon I've found will touch over 3.
I was in a wheelchair and on crutches taking 2,000 mg of motrin or a bottle of asprin a day before I found a good doctor.
Without opoids I would be on disability or dead.
Don't know what your studies say but tylenol does nothing for me and is toxic to the liver.
It has been talked about.
Why should I get cut open to install a device that provides the same Med when I can take a pill.
What’s to say the pump won’t start pumping too much ? If mankind made something it could break or malfunction.
I’m not up to date on the latest technology, but original systemes the pain meds are administered right to the Central Nervous System. You would not have any side effects, not even test positive on a drug test. It’s like an insulin pump for diabetics.
A new company, BiocorX has a patch that allows you to get off the opioids while controlling your pain.
No. I don’t think I ever heard of that therapy before. I have two ruptured discs and the pain was getting worse. I was researching doctors to visit for treatment. During my research, I came across a book entitled “Healing Back Pain” by John Sarno. Although his recommendations seemed mostly psycho-babble to me, I tried it anyway. I am also a person of prayer and I was talking with God throughout. I don’t know if it was God (I choose to think it was God) or the book, but as soon as I tried those procedures my pain went away and I have not had any problems since.
If you give my you home town or zipcode, I can give you the name of a McKenzie therapist near you.
Everything helps to make you feel better. I have people that swear, their diet affects their back pain.
The challenge is to get cured.
I am a firm believer in exhausting all treatments before surgery. Sometimes there’s no alternative, and surgery works wonders.
McKenzie Therapists, will bring it to the top so that the options are clear, if you fail physical therapy.
For EVERY occupation? Sounds like ideology rather than research talking.
For SOME conditions (e.g., chronic back pain or hip or knee osteoarthritis pain).
True. Not talking about severe acute pains, although there’s a study in the ER that says non-opioids were as effective.
I had a kidney stone, I needed something fast acting once the pain started. There’s a definite indication for opioids.
If you’re a physician, I pity your patients. Studies that show Tylenol is as effective as opioids are a joke. You know as well as I do, that a researcher can get a study to say anything he wants. Opioids should be used at the lowest effective dose, but replacing them with Tylenol for any but a very rare patient who is lucky enough to be extremely sensitive to it and get relief, is absurd. My husband is a chronic pain patient with severe disc disease. Without opioids, he would not be able to function, or enjoy any normal activities, of which he can only enjoy a few, anyway. He also gets anti-inflammatant spinal injections, which play havoc with his blood sugars and mood, while giving only mild relief. He has gastric bleeding if he takes more than a couple of anti-inflammatants a WEEK, and is on plavix, so can’t take them anyway. If he took enough Tylenol to relieve his pain, it would destroy his liver, and still wouldn’t relieve the pain. You’re either a heartless old goat, or too wet behind the ears to remember the number of arthritis patients who died of liver failure because their rheumatologists thought Tylenol was a harmless miracle drug, and dosed them with massive amounts. Doctors like you are a menace, and should consider doing autopsies for a living, instead of inflicting your sadism on living patients.
Secondly, some good studies out there showing that Tylenol is AS EFFECTIVE in controlling chronic pain, (and acute pain in ED) as the opioids
Well wherever the above "good studies" You Posted came from.
The way I read it it's Tylenol=Opioids and if that's the case then I should be allowed to buy Opioids OTC. And I can't so they are Not equal or AS EFFECTIVE.
I have a simple fix for the STREET OPIOIDS problem. They get one bust for free and are offered help to get unstrung and the second time is a bullet to the head. Cheap, simple and effective.
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