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To: TEXOKIE; No_Doll_i
Oh dear, rumor has it that POTUS just signed a bill that will yank security clearances for SES peeps.

I have never understood the entire anon issue with SES. Senior Executive Service (SES) is a legitimate rank for very senior civilians. There are also rank structures within SES, depending on the position of authority.

Cabinet Secretaries are another matter. Would people care to know that President Trump's chief of staff, Gen (ret) Kelly holds SES rank?

President Trump has other SES ranked individuals working directly for him. I worked for SES executives in the Pentagon, one who was a retired full Colonel, fighter pilot, and Purple Heart recipient.

Perhaps people are not understanding the term.

Are there Obama holdovers at that rank. Sure.

Are there Trump people at that rank? Absolutely.

Trump would not yank clearances for "SES peeps", but perhaps for certain individuals. But even then, I don't see how that would work. You either fire them, or you do not. They can't continue in their job without the security clearance.

People who leave government service, like the snake Brennan, still retain clearances - and Q spoke about this, and the connection to 5 Eyes to cover up any record of access to classified information.

913 posted on 08/13/2018 4:53:38 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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Judicial Watch has just been informed about today's hotel room death of "Task Force" by F-I whistleblower Robyn Gritz


916 posted on 08/13/2018 4:57:27 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: SkyPilot

SES is pretty much just a pay scale for top bureaucrats and appointees like GS is for most Fed employees. All Cabinet members are SES. Bloggers who didn’t know it was there started making up stuff about it when they discovered SES.

I believe the President can fire any member of the SES but can’t fire GS employees.


919 posted on 08/13/2018 4:58:59 PM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: SkyPilot; ransomnote; Cats Pajamas; greeneyes; bagster; generally; Wneighbor; mairdie; ...

Sky Pilot, I think it has to do with the way the SES (as many other departments were) abused by the Deep State. It is by means of this union, that made it difficult to uproot bureaucrats who become entrenched and feel as though it is THEY who set policy.

Of course I may have it wrong.... so others who have more experience working in or with government, may be able to clarify things for all of us.


931 posted on 08/13/2018 5:18:47 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: SkyPilot

The problem stems from Obama moving political appointees into SES positions prior to the inauguration so they could not be asked for resignations and the placing career Civil Service (loyals) into the vacated positions as “ Acting Deputies”. Congress is then slow rolling Trump Appointees and even when approved, the career CS employees will return to their full time position (which they hold while acting in the other position).

The political activists are not hired IAW properly filled positions as SES.

Also remember, POTUS inherited over 5-7000 security clearance requests that had not been investigated. These personnel (reported to be as many as 5000) are the people in question at SES.

POTUS inherits the enemy by not accepting their resignations (since they were not in appointed positions) after inauguration. These people are DS or Political Hacks. Can you imagine becoming CEO of a company that just hired 10-14000 people sworn to your destruction and destruction of your company and filling ALL of your top two tiered positions in every branch of the company?

This is only part of what POTUS is trying to right!

MAGA!


961 posted on 08/13/2018 5:51:31 PM PDT by Billyv ( Ephesians 6:11 for we battle not against flesh and blood...Pray for our leaders and nation!)
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To: SkyPilot

I have responded to this before. I have been here a long time, but picking on SES people because they have a skill that is needed, and not available to .gov, show how little you know.

How many do you know?

Every single SES I know is pro-trump to the death.

You talk madness, because you don’t know krap.

If I could keep my cost of living where I live and move to DC to help Trump as an SES, I would do so tomorrow.

If you don’t know what the hell,you are talking about, shut the heck up.


963 posted on 08/13/2018 5:55:44 PM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (The love of many has grown cold. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: SkyPilot

SkyPilot,
I’m glad you brought this up. Do you have any idea why government employees keep any security clearance? It boggles my mine why on earth we would do that.

Thank you,
Dave


1,147 posted on 08/14/2018 4:56:48 AM PDT by Danut
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