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To: Boomer; Norski; metmom

Perhaps the bigger issue is personal responsibility.

Most good natured laws were enacted to primarily protect the public at large. In some places it’s laws against tall grass to discourage rodents and fire. Other laws are to encourage decency when people need more encouragement to be good neighbors ; such as no loud music after “normal” hours. In both instances there is a restriction to freedom. That is oneof the many shortcomings with living in urban areas.

In the case of dangerous things, such as storing large amounts of fuel, chemicals, animals, or could be a case of protecting the public from an individual who isn’t financially or otherwise preparedfor the outcome of their actions. Still though, it’s a restriction on a persons freedom.

I am a HUGE supporter of personal freedoms. Likely WAY past libertarian, straight to John Locke or Tho Paine, perhaps more.
The issue is personal responsibility. Few people in our society want and/or are able to be responsible. To me that’s why this issue is so problematic. Similar to legalized and unfettered controls on drugs or other substances. We should demand accountability with freedom. Without it society pays. That is not freedom from the standpoint that now society bears the brunt of the mess.

Outright ban or registration violates the basic tenets of true freedom, however when something horrible occurs are people stepping up and owning their drama? The cops are looking for the owner because no one is owning up to consequence of this incident.

Perhaps insurance or a bond requirement would be a starting point. Insurance companies already have limitations on what they will cover for their clients, perhaps this is what is appropriate.

I’m sorry that here on FR this subject and it’s discussion devolved to personal attacks.


89 posted on 08/05/2018 1:47:18 AM PDT by Oil Object Insp
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To: Oil Object Insp
"1) Perhaps insurance or a bond requirement would be a starting point. Insurance companies already have limitations on what they will cover for their clients, perhaps this is what is appropriate.

2) I’m sorry that here on FR this subject and it’s discussion devolved to personal attacks." ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1) Yes. Unfortunately, this appears to be exactly what the type of persons who own these dogs do not do.

In addition, no nationally known insurance company will insure for liability of these dogs through homeowner's or renter's insurance except State Farm. The rest specifically do not cover these dogs, and indeed the ownership of same can invalidate the insurance.

Here is a source of information on the subject:

"Insuring pit bulls, State Farm pays out double the norm for dog attacks

April 8, 2018 by Merritt Clifton Policies on other breeds subsidize pit bull owners

article link here: https://www.animals24-7.org/2018/04/08/insuring-pit-bulls-state-farm-pays-out-double-the-norm-for-dog-attacks/

2) Please read the entire thread, and any other thread posted on FR in the last month, keyword: "pitbull", for the source of the personal attacks.

Thank you, Norski

94 posted on 08/05/2018 3:01:51 AM PDT by Norski
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