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To: BDParrish
BDParrish: "a “state’s rights” position could be useful if it ever comes to blows."

I don't believe it ever will, absent some cataclysm we don't even imagine now.
Remember, there was some dark talk about Obama building, in effect, an alternate military to overthrow existing institutions but nothing came of it.
Doubtless one reason is the Obamanistas thought they could do enough damage simply by infiltrating and corrupting the DC Deep State.
And who knows, maybe they will...?

BDParrish: "Did you get my point that our side will NOT FIGHT without legitimate constituted authority? The states could provide this."

"Our side" will never start any such fight, nor will any come while President Trump is still effective.
As for the more distant future, well... anything is theoretically possible, but a CWII is very improbable under current conditions.

BDParrish: "For the North it was the moral outrage of slavery, for the South it was the Bible authority for slavery, hence both sides in that war were fought by the good people who as Lincoln so aptly said, “called the same God” to aid."

But the Bible strongly opposes slavery for God's people, indeed it is one long anti-slavery document -- from Exodus out of Egypt to Jesus freeing all of us from slavery to sin.
But your comment here shows that like everything else in Lost Cause mythology, claims that the Bible supports slavery are built on lies.

BDParrish: "Anyway what is the point in castigating the 'lost causers' here on FreeRepublic?
Where are the folks that realize we must come together, as we did to face the German threat in 1916 and the Soviet threat in the 1960’s?"

But I don't "castigate" anybody except for endlessly repeating their lies & myths.
By the way, those great "come together" periods were both under "Progressive" Democrat Presidents (Wilson & FDR) who specifically & openly supported both Southern Democrats and much of their Lost Cause mythology.
Today the last of the old Southern Democrats wants to pretend they're Republicans if only we, like old-time Northern Democrats, would buy & embrace their Lost Causer nonsense.

That's not going to happen, nor should it, ever.

You disagree?

171 posted on 07/29/2018 4:12:57 PM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK
But the Bible strongly opposes slavery for God's people, indeed it is one long anti-slavery document -- from Exodus out of Egypt to Jesus freeing all of us from slavery to sin. But your comment here shows that like everything else in Lost Cause mythology, claims that the Bible supports slavery are built on lies.

I think you have a good mind and I enjoy reading your comments. I realize that you are a true historian, (so is my daughter,) and that is partly what is moving you in all this.

It is certainly true about slavery, and our southern position was indefensible considering Philemon! Our hypocrisy was there to see, were we willing to be honest. We were outraged at the legal plunder by the Yankee tariffs, while ignoring that slavery is also, in another form, exactly that, legalized plunder! Holding slaves while attempting to evangelize them was such hypocrisy. "Thou shalt not steal" the labor of another man!

It was General Lee who ordered us to furl the flag. He set the example by NEVER participating in any such debates with the Yankees on moral justification for the lost cause. Other generals and especially the vice president were not so good or wise. The issue has been settled. As Lee would say, "God's will."

BTW if we "lost causers" would grant that the war was fought over slavery and that the war decided that issue and not secession, then we might better maintain that the issue of secession has not been settled and a philosophy of state rights might be resurrected in people's minds and hearts if it ever came to blows.

187 posted on 07/31/2018 8:33:33 AM PDT by BDParrish (One representative for every 30,000 persons!)
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