I do my best, but like everyone else I make mistakes sometimes. What facts in particular that I posted are you saying I got wrong?
Believe it or not (in your case probably not) there are a lot of people here that have done the research and happen to be very well versed in current and past events.
Why would I not believe that? Of course there are tons of knowledgeable Freepers on all sorts of topics. I wouldn't be posting here still if I didn't experience that all the time.
Now sliding the thread I will have to give you at least a 5 for now, we’ll see how the evening progresses.
OK, well thanks, I guess. 5 out of 10? OK, better than a 1.
Go fact check where FB came from then come back.
Well I am pretty familiar with the official story, I read the book that the movie "Social Network" was created from. And I'm aware of the theory that some of the technology was developed at the CIA, and nefarious methods used to get it to Zuck. I don't necessarily believe that theory.
I mentioned My Space - are YOU familiar with that platform? Here is a bit about its history from Wikipedia:
Fox Interactive Media headquarters, 407 North Maple Drive, Beverly Hills, California, where Myspace is also housed. In August 2003, several eUniverse employees with Friendster accounts saw potential in its social networking features. The group decided to mimic the more popular features of the website. Within 10 days, the first version of Myspace was ready for launch, implemented using ColdFusion.[11][19] A complete infrastructure of finance, human resources, technical expertise, bandwidth, and server capacity was available for the site. The project was overseen by Brad Greenspan (eUniverse's Founder, Chairman, CEO), who managed Chris DeWolfe (MySpace's starting CEO), Josh Berman, Tom Anderson (MySpace's starting president), and a team of programmers and resources provided by eUniverse.
Now, lets look at the Facebook timeline:
Facebook is an American online social media and social networking service company based in Menlo Park, California. Its website was launched on February 4, 2004, by Mark Zuckerberg, along with fellow Harvard College students and roommates Eduardo Saverin, Andrew McCollum, Dustin Moskovitz, and Chris Hughes.
So, maybe, just possibly, Facebook was merely Yet Another Social Network site that were popping up, and didn't require stolen secret CIA technology to get going. (Or, maybe it did. Hard to say.)
Certainly even the standard accounts say that Zuck wrestled control from the other creators, and there were lawsuits over that the resulted in huge settlments.
And maybe, just possibly I am (at least sometimes) one of those Freeper's who have done research aren are very well versed on the topic we're discussing.
ps Your following statement is laughable on multiple levels
“I said that professional reporters, such as those that broadcast on huge networks like Fox or Clear Channel radio have a set of standards for how they do their reporting that make it almost impossible to report on Q.”- me
No, I don't think it's laughable, I think it's correct. It's easy to say that "they all suck" about reporters, but it's not true.
I mentioned Tucker Carlson, he's an impressive reporter. I don't doubt that Tucker is quite aware of Q, maybe even following the story somewhere, but it's not reportable by him.
Just because we all detest the bias of NBC, CNN, The New York TImes and others of their ilk doesn't mean that no reporters have any standard or professional methods they are aware of and supposed to follow.
Maybe a lot of them are just ignoring them. In the S&L crisis over 1000 or of a total of 3200 S&Ls failed, most for criminal or negligent practices. It did not mean that there no bankers knew anything and the whole profession were cheats. We don't say that talking about bankers following the standards of their industry is ridiculous.
In the Enron crisis the entire accounting firm of Arther Anderson was found to be cooking the books. They were eventually disbanded as punishment. We don't say that there are no valid accounting standards.
Even if the ratio is worse than 1/3, there is still a core set of methods and practices reporters use, or should use.
Tucker's father was a reporter, and his first job out of college was working as a reporter at a journal that the Heritage Foundation published. I'm sure they worked hard to pound some good, solid journalistic practices into him.
When recently accused of fabricating the story about Tony Podesta his response was "I have two sources" -- which is a simple way of saying: I am a professional, and I'm following the accepted standards for professional reporting.
Should the Q theories prove out as so many hope then one of the outcomes I most look forward to is a revulsion at the behavior of the media, and how they have ignored their own professions rules, just like the S&L banker and accountant at Arthur Anderson.
Have a nice night, NDi
TL NWR
Walls of text still don’t impress me.
You mention Carlson. For days I said on here and Twitter that his story from two anonymous sources about the supposed deal cut wasn’t to be trusted. Nobody listened except on Twitter. Turns out...I was right. The only anonymous source to trust is Q. With Disney buying Fox I fully expect FNC to be dismantled or go left.
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SHAME!
This is UTTERLY FALSE. The destruction of Arthur Andersen was a great crime against a venerated and great American accounting firm. They were NOT accused of "cooking the books." One Houston-based partner was intimidated by the heavy-handed prosecutor (Mueller's Andrew Weissmann) into a guilty plea, relative to some questionable advice given to Enron: "Check your shredding policies."
Then the government used the "Partnership" aspect of Andersen to indict the whole firm, knowing full well it was a death sentence (DEATH WITHOUT A TRIAL!), because no firm under indictment for any SEC violation is allowed to engage in public accounting--Andersen's primary business.
Later AA was vindicated ... but it was too late. The jobs and the partnership equity of thousands of good people who had worked there all their lives were destroyed in a flash.
I call SHAME for your IGNORANTLY SLANDERING this great company, which was the VICTIM OF A GREAT CRIME perpetrated by the U.S. Government.
That is patently a false statement. In fact, the entire case against Arthur Anderson was overturned in a landmark 9-0 US Supreme Court Decision, due to there being NO CRIME! The "Special Prosecutor", which included some of the same people and tactics being used in the Russia probe today, made up the crime, which did not exist! Out of a world-wide accounting firm with 85,000 employees, perhaps twenty were involved with the Enron account, and THEY were unaware of the unethical, but NOT illegal actions of the Enron Board of Directors in allowing their CFO'S close dealings with two entities IN which HE HAD MAJORITY INTEREST.
In fact, the special prosecutor issued immunity to the leaders of Enron to instead go after four mid-level managers of Merrill Lynch for what became known as the Barge tax deal, involving a mere $6.78 million in which a profit of less than $700 was booked over a six months period long before the Enron collapse. . . during which, it turnout, the prosecutors suborned perjury, hid exculpatory evidence, manufactured false evidence, refused "Brady disclosures" they knew about to the defense, unconstitutionally actively conspired to hide the Brady evidence, lied numerously times to the judge about the Brady evidence, ran defendants into bankruptcy, over-charged offenses (sound familiar?), and threw white collar "Indictees" into solitary confinement to force confessions from innocent men, named everyone in sight as "unindicted co-conspirators" under threat of being indicted if they testified for, or even talked to, the defense, got the judge to refuse baii, and demanded ridiculously long sentences of up to 37 years for "crimes" the accused did not even have a material gain from committing.
The prosecution's novel theory was that these four men had essentially embezzled fund from Enron by "depriving Enron of the fair value of the services" of Enron's CEO and CFO in doing this ~$7 million barge deal with them. This, illogically, ignores the fact that Enron's CEO and CFO approached Merrill Lynch with the barge proposal in the first place! There also is no such "crime" as illegally depriving another company of its employees time unless one BRIBES them. There was no bribe alleged. Ergo, no crime on Merrill Lynch's part. Zip. None. It was a standard business transaction. . . and so the 5th circuit ruled!
After all was said and done, the convictions of the four Merrill Lynch employees had all their convictions reversed except two counts, the convections of two counts for Dan Brown for lying to a Grand Jury about his understanding about the content of a phone call in which he was not even a participant, and the obstruction of justice for that claimed perjury. . . but he was told in the GJ hearing to answer the question, even if it was just his opinion, right or wrong (one appellate justice wrote even those were not crimes and were in fact based on truthful statements and should be reversed, but the two liberals on the panel overruled him)! There is no way to lie about one's opinion—but that was what he was convicted of doing—add also that Brown was on record as opposing that Merrill Lynch even enter into the deal with Enron!
Those were the ONLY convictions left standing out of the over $150 billion Enron failure. . . and it was later found that Brown's opinion was TRUE! He did not lie. . . but he's left with a felony record.
Again, there was no underlying crime for the prosecutors to ever bring the cases in the first place! The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals threw it all out! And the real crooks were given immunity so the prosecutors could go after inconsequential made up "crimes" that supposedly were committed years before and had NOTHING to do with Enron's collapse. (Again, sound familiar?)
But even THEN, these idiot Federal Prosecutors attempted to RETRY ALL FOUR MEN ON THE SAME CHARGES THE 5TH CIRCUIT HAD DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL! And their idiot pet Federal Judge was allowing it!!!! The defense went to all the expense of preparing for trial when the day before trial was to commence they discovered the prosecutors had not contacted ant of the original witness from the first trial. . . and were unprepared to go to trial! instead they tried to bluff and force plea bargains. The defense refused and the prosecutors folded. . . after eleven years and more than $15 million plus bankrupting all the defendants and DESTROYING Arthur Anderson for something they DID NOT DO!
Read "Licensed to Lie, Exposing Corruption in the Department of Justice," by Lyndsey Powell, an ex-U.S. Attorney. One name: Andrew Weissmann. . . He was on the Enron task force and is Mueller's chief of staff. . . he plays dirty.