Posted on 07/13/2018 9:12:09 PM PDT by Morgana
Popular Republican journalist Jonah Goldberg angered his base Wednesday by claiming people can be conservative and support abortion.
Goldberg is a senior editor at the National Review and a New York Times bestselling author. On Twitter Wednesday, he made the comment about fellow conservative journalist Tomi Lahren who has been openly critical of pro-lifers.
“Honestly, I think you can support abortion and still be a conservative. I just have a problem when you’re stupid about it or use left wing arguments for it — or both,” Goldberg wrote in the post, linking to one of Lahren’s recent comments.
Goldberg continued his thread to buttress his thesis that being a conservative is not about a single political issue:
No one would argue with Jonah that one could be an atheist and be a conservative or the many other things and be a conservative. But it is very difficult to be a conservative when you deny the most fundamental right to life there is and that is the right to life.
Thomas Jefferson, ironically the founder of the Democratic Party, understood that the number one goal of good government was to protect the right of life of its citizens. Conservative political philosophies are all about putting in place principles to make the lives of the nation’s citizens better by relying on freedoms and liberties free of undue governmental influence as opposed to government control. But it is impossible for citizens to enjoy any of the rights or freedoms under a conservative government if they are not alive to enjoy them in the first place.
Conservatives certainly can disagree about political policies like taxing and spending or foreign policy. President Ronald Reagan understood that Republicans can disagree on some political philosophies and policies and still be united as Republicans when they agree on 80% of the major issues of the day. But the pro-life former president clearly understood that human beings have a fundamental right to life they can’t be abrogated by government.
Mr. Goldberg has taken this news outlet to task for publishing this article. But the issue of the right to life and its primary place in the Republican or conservative political movements is a long-standing one. There have been decades worth of debates about keeping the Republican Party a pro-life party and having a strong pro-life position in the party platform, for example.
So the question of whether or not the Republican Party or the conservative movement rests on the fundamental right to life is a very important one for a considerable number of conservative Republican voters. To merely label this discussion as “clickbait or sloppy” is to do a great disservice to the merits of this very substantive and important debate and the considerable number of pro-life conservative Republican voters for whom it is the most important or one of the most important political issues they consider when voting.
In fact the issue of the right to life and its place in the Republican and conservative movement is so important that millions of Democrats who formally aligned with the Democratic Party are now Republicans/conservatives specifically because the Democratic Party and the liberals who control it moved in such a radically pro-abortion direction. To say that conservatives can be pro-abortion undermines the very reason so many people are conservatives in the first place.
When it comes to the debate over abortion in the Republican Party, Lahren has been openly critical of pro-life conservatives. About the debate about the open U.S. Supreme Court seat, Lahren told Fox News: “Implying that we’re sending a Supreme Court justice to the bench to carry out religious judicial activism is a mistake and unconstitutional. It’s not what conservatives stand for.”
While certainly not flattering to Lahren, his post did upset a number of his Twitter followers.
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Abortion, or “choice”, or “reproductive rights” = euthanasia. And once you can euthanize the young, you can euthanize the old. And the unacceptable. And the politically incorrect. This polarized, mindless, unreasonable, miseducated society is headed that direction.
A “pro-choice” conservative is a damned fool.
No, no you can’t.
From the look of most of the posts here. She isn’t a Freeper and his base ain’t either. Abortion=murder in my opinion.
You can eat chicken fried steak with gravy and still be a vegan.
No really...
Yeah, more like “controlled opposition”. He tagged along with his mother, Lucianne, in the early days of the FreeRepublic.com. When she couldn’t have the influence here that she wanted, she started Lucianne.com. It still seems to be there.
Thank you Abba Father YHWH for sending us President Donald John Trump to expose all of this before the end!
I always thought it would be fun to run for office to use the “personally pro-life” horsecrap the pro-abort Dem pols use when running, but turn it on its head as such:
“I’m personally pro-abortion. Stab it, vacuum it out, hamburgerize it. It’s all good. But I’d NEVER force my views on the public and would have to vote pro-life.”
Stand back and watch the nutters heads explode.
My wife had a D&C procedure due to a 2.5 month miscarriage. A D&C procedure is effectively an abortion. We had personal reasons for opting for the procedure. My wife's OB/GYN did not push us one way or another. A rarity even 25 years ago.
If this choice means we are not conservatives, fine. We'll still fight illegal immigration, bloated government, high income taxes, attempts to overturn the 2nd amendment, judicial activism, ...
“From the look of most of the posts here. She isn’t a Freeper and his base ain’t either.”
She used to post here, back in the day.
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Abortion is abhorrent but it should not be the tip of the spear of Conservatism and the saving of the Republic right now. There should be a time of our choosing but much more severe issues confront us and we need every vote that we can muster. The left wants war. They are not going away and are rapidly sliding as left as the spectrum allows.
Impossible to be a conservative and think it’s fine to murder unborn children. That goes for fat-faced Never Trumper Goldberg, Never Trumper Lahren, Never Trumper Bernard Goldberg, and the rest of the fake and fraud “conservatives” who believe it’s ok to murder children.
I’d like to see a pro-choice candidate acknowledge that Roe is BS.
A D&C after the child is already dead is not effectively an abortion.
Chosing to have one doesn’t mean you aren’t conservative.
Making the claim that the two are the same means that you aren’t honest.
Not in my book!
you can not force people to participate and be conservative.
Conservative, and barbaric.
He’s such a Douchebag Neo Conservative
His ilk used to be the power here
He posted here and may still under whatever username
Pro-life people told us we should have let the pregnancy abort “normally” (which was an option), that it’s God’s will. So, in their eyes, my wife had an abortion.
So did Howlin, and she was as rabid a pro-abotionist as ever posted anywhere.
I still remember her post about getting the pro-life boot off of the neck of the Republican Party made shortly before she quit posting here.
Soft stance for a great name
And that elfin chubby fag on FOX...
Can’t recall his name....
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