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On this date in 1863

Posted on 07/04/2018 6:19:14 AM PDT by Bull Snipe

A glorious 4th of July for the Union cause. General Lee's Army of Northern Virginia begins it retreat from Pennsylvania after having been defeated by General Meade's Army of the Potomac at the Battle of Gettysburg. General Grant accepts the surrender of the City of Vicksburg from General Pemberton. About 32,000 Confederate soldiers stack their weapons and are paroled by the Union forces. This is the second Confederate Army to surrender to Grant. The Union now controls the Mississippi river and the Confederate state is split into two parts.


TOPICS: History
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To: jeffersondem

Being an American isn’t about what part of the compass one hails from. You can alway’s leave Reb. You won’t be missed.


41 posted on 07/04/2018 3:00:39 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: Rome2000

Boy, irony’s lost on you, huh?


42 posted on 07/04/2018 3:06:44 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: jmacusa

WOW...I knew living in NJ was tough, but you take that misery to a whole new level today! Please realize that you sound like your world is coming to an end, and are attacking everyone verbally! Pull that corncob out of your heinie, it is getting old seeing every one of your comments so angry, or dismal!

After, I came across 3 awful comments of yours, I decided to get all of them in a row in forum, you should do that, it might give you some perspective of how that looks to readers who may not be interacting with you!

Get a grip dude....I know inside somewhere you must be a nicer person, to be a conservative! The last guy was just trying to give you some insight on the Queen, and your reaction was terrible....think about it! Please!


43 posted on 07/04/2018 3:07:29 PM PDT by Ambrosia (Born in NC, then PA, NY,WV, NM, SC, and FL & back God/Freedom=Priority!)
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To: Ambrosia
Stick it, ok? My world is doing just fine. As I said, today of all days I don't want to be hearing about that old bag. And screw you and your patronizing attitude.
44 posted on 07/04/2018 3:10:42 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: jmacusa

Prayers up for whatever is bugging you, and hopefully you will realize that ‘the Israelites wandered in desert for 40 years, because of their whining and complaining”....Are you already 40 years into it? Life is better without all that leftist anger! ciao


45 posted on 07/04/2018 3:18:43 PM PDT by Ambrosia (Born in NC, then PA, NY,WV, NM, SC, and FL & back God/Freedom=Priority!)
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To: Ambrosia

Listen bud. It’s self-righteous aholes like you that piss me off. Anyone ever tell you self-righteousness is just a phony form of respectability? Take your prayers and shove. ‘em.


46 posted on 07/04/2018 3:24:37 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: jmacusa

I appreciate irony.

Sorry I am missing your point.

Do you really think the Constitution would have been ratified by the Southern States if they knew “Abolitionists” would have stripped them of their property with “four score”?

No way Jose.

Regardless, we are where we are.

The 13% where doing better every year until the communists weaponized them in the 60’s.

Time to say, in my opinion, that current racial demographic of the country works, ALL citizens of every stripe need to be AMERICAN FIRST.

The “INEVITABLE WHITE MINORITY” BS being pushed by left wing Jews and Communists is done, this country is 62% white and is going to stay that way .

Severely limit legal immigration, and unless the Canadian or Mexican Government is persecuting a person, NO ASYLUM OF ANY KIND IN THE USA.

COMMUNISTS in DC and the Press and Academia must be NEUTRALIZED, no exceptions, if it takes mass arrests , seizure of assets , and executions, so be it.

Happy Independence Day!!!!!!!!!

AMERICA FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


47 posted on 07/04/2018 3:26:58 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES-GOD WITH US)
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To: jmacusa

Oh, it seems name calling is one of those JR HIGH tactics used by those who can’t handle people who actually pray. No I won’t take my prayers and shove them, but I will present them to God Almighty, and may he have loving mercy on your troubled soul!


48 posted on 07/04/2018 3:31:29 PM PDT by Ambrosia (Born in NC, then PA, NY,WV, NM, SC, and FL & back God/Freedom=Priority!)
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To: Rome2000

My point was you’re saying many people who post here have low IQ’s and then you go on to say The Founders would have sided with the Confederacy. That’s what I found ironic. The point of tolerating Southern slavery by Northern Colonialists was to get the Constitution ratified in the first place. Happy Fourth to you as well.


49 posted on 07/04/2018 3:35:11 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: Ambrosia

Name calling? nah, it called calling it as I see it. My soul and my relationship with the Almighty are just fine. Really dude you STINK to high Heaven of self-righteousness . Go away.


50 posted on 07/04/2018 3:38:27 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: jmacusa

LOL..so sad! Or do you really need to have last word?


51 posted on 07/04/2018 3:43:34 PM PDT by Ambrosia (Born in NC, then PA, NY,WV, NM, SC, and FL & back God/Freedom=Priority!)
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To: jmacusa

Yes, lets’s celebrate this Independence Day.

Tough year coming up.


52 posted on 07/04/2018 3:49:18 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES-GOD WITH US)
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To: Rome2000

What scares me is how violent the midterms are going to be and Trumps re-election, You’ve seen as we all have how violent the Left became after the election. Can anyone doubt how violent they’ll be in the future?


53 posted on 07/04/2018 4:02:46 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: Ambrosia

Go AWAY! End of transmission, BYE!


54 posted on 07/04/2018 4:03:47 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: Bull Snipe

Off-point, but there used to be a restaurant housed in Lee’s old home called “Travellers” in Richmond. An excellent steak house. If you walked out into the back, the door of the back porch against which Brady photographed him and his sons immediately after the war is still there and intact. Probably to this day although it is private now, I believe.


55 posted on 07/04/2018 4:22:21 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Rome2000
The FOUNDERS would have sided with the Confederacy...

I just about fell out of my chair laughing at that one. the Founders siding with a den of thieves and their pretend nation? A "nation" founded on deceit and treachery and theft? A "nation" that forever enshrined the practice of owning other human beings? I sincerely doubt it!

Oh, and it was the slavocracy that did the betraying. All because they lost an election. Sound familiar? That's because, like dogs returning to their own vomit, leftists always revert to type.

56 posted on 07/04/2018 6:13:03 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: Rome2000
Do you really think the Constitution would have been ratified by the Southern States if they knew “Abolitionists” would have stripped them of their property with “four score”?

Yes, because in the end national security overrode all other considerations. You can't enjoy owning your ni**ers if you're consumed with staying alive.

None of the rest of your post is even intelligible so I'll leave it for someone else to point and snicker at.

57 posted on 07/04/2018 6:17:29 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr; DoodleDawg; BroJoeK; Bull Snipe; gandalftb; DiogenesLamp; central_va; rustbucket; ...

“I just about fell out of my chair laughing at that one. the Founders siding with a den of thieves and their pretend nation? A “nation” founded on deceit and treachery and theft? A “nation” that forever enshrined the practice of owning other human beings? I sincerely doubt it!”

There is one more point you should always make when talking about the founding of the United States. It will make your case more potent: of the 13 original states that fought in the Revolution, only 13 of them were slave states.


58 posted on 07/04/2018 6:46:59 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem

Did you have a point - other than the one on top of your head?


59 posted on 07/04/2018 6:52:19 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr; DoodleDawg; BroJoeK; Bull Snipe; gandalftb; DiogenesLamp; central_va; rustbucket; Pelham; ..

“Prepare to be bombarded with . . . nonsense about how the United States Constitution “enshrined” the practice and legitimacy of slavery.”

That is an interesting comment. “Enshrined” is another word for “included.”

You should be aware that there are those on this board that believe that slavery was included in the United States constitution through the use of euphemisms. The word “euphemism” is another word for “substitute.”

For example, in post 29 one expert that I respect wrote: “George Orwell would be proud of the torturous machinations required to find a suitable euphemism because they were too timid to say the word aloud: Slavery.”

So, critic answers critic.


60 posted on 07/04/2018 7:13:56 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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