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To: marktwain

Indeed, and the reason is simply because pistol calibers produce so much less.... Energy. Compact to a fault, lowest recoil, easiest to suppress, is all great till you run into something that requires more of everything you compromised ... I think my next upper will be a 1 in 6 twist .224, 12 inch carbine chambered for 100grn frangibles, and a generic surefire can will make it work just fine.


40 posted on 06/14/2018 10:26:12 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Manly Warrior

Indeed, and the reason is simply because pistol calibers produce so much less.... Energy.


Exactly. But when you want and need stealth, the 5.56 does not cut it.

The 100 grain frangible work-around is just that. It still is half the power of a .45 standard ACP, if it is kept subsonic.

One of the really big problems with the 1st gen sub-guns is they are extremely heavy compared to locked-breach systems.

It should be possible to engineer a locked breach, integrally suppressed .45 or 9mm that weighs under 6 lbs, is compact, and is extremely controllable and accurate to 150 yards.


41 posted on 06/14/2018 11:05:50 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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