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Mysterious neutrino surplus hints at the existence of new particles
ScienceNews.org ^ | June 1, 2018 | Emily Conover

Posted on 06/03/2018 1:08:06 PM PDT by ETL

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To: PIF

New Jersey?


41 posted on 06/03/2018 2:12:34 PM PDT by Pelham ("Truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it.")
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To: yesthatjallen

“This gives physicists another ‘fudge-factor’ to hedge their theories.”

Go back into your cave.


42 posted on 06/03/2018 2:14:33 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: Pelham

y


43 posted on 06/03/2018 2:21:07 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: ETL

I think we should sell surplus neutrinos to needy third world countries.


44 posted on 06/03/2018 2:28:29 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (We have a mental health problem disguised as a gun problem.)
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To: All

I remember reading that Scientists around the turn of twentieth century concluded that had figured out pretty much everything. Soon they realized that they had not and were wrong about almost everything.


45 posted on 06/03/2018 2:38:09 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: ETL

Global warming - it’s sterilizing the neutrinos !!


46 posted on 06/03/2018 3:15:34 PM PDT by beethovenfan (I always try to maximize my carbon footprint.)
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To: ETL

So, cost of neutrinos going down?


47 posted on 06/03/2018 3:42:57 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: ETL

Then there is unobtainable they may or may not find.


48 posted on 06/03/2018 5:03:14 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Jyotishi

Although I started out as a math-and-science nerd replete with awards in both, I have never sweated over these things for two reasons:

One, I consider the paramount principle to be that the Model is not the Real. I consider all models thus either more or less accurate relatively (no pun intended), not absolutely true or false. Neither Relativity nor QM is equatable with Reality. Neither Bohr nor SPDF are disqualified from being models.

If I have a 1/72 P-51, then a 1/48 one, the greater accuracy of the latter does not invalidate the former. It is not that one retains its “modelness” while the other loses it. Further, neither one is the same as a real P-51; there are always characteristics and properties missing (like flying with a Homo sapiens at the stick).

Two, I am a Christian who has been in ministry. I think the Creator knows what He is doing, whether we do or not. It is interesting and beneficial to contemplate, but not existentially exigent.


49 posted on 06/03/2018 6:41:36 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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I consider the paramount principle to be that the Model is not the Real.

That is what lies at the root of my suspicions. That there is no one, single 'answer' to what reality is. For one thing, there is no one, over-riding vantage point or perspective to make any such determinations. For example, reality would appear different at different size scales (our everyday realm vs the quantum realm or the grand, cosmological scale/realm). It would be like our sense of the world vs that of the tiniest microbe, only far more extreme. When you enter in the possibility of multiple universes and multiple dimensions it gets even more absurd.

50 posted on 06/04/2018 5:30:03 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: Pelham
I’ll have to read that about 7 or 8 times to absorb even a portion of it.

Yes, I fully agree with that. I was in a rush and so didn't take the time to properly read those Wiki excerpts prior to posting them.

In any case, what they basically was describing was a very strange, mystifying phenomenon of the quantum world where two quantum entities somehow remain in (instantaneous) contact with each other even after being separated by enormous distances, in theory, across billions of light years.

51 posted on 06/04/2018 5:49:43 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: Jyotishi

Lol! Good one. Nearly as concise as e=mc^2.


52 posted on 06/04/2018 5:52:17 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: PIF
Now my own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose

Sure seems that way, at least these days, with transgender restrooms, same sex marriage, and all the rest. :)

53 posted on 06/04/2018 5:57:42 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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This topic was posted 6/3/2018, thanks ETL.


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54 posted on 03/15/2021 2:50:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: ETL

.” That there is no one, single ‘answer’ to what reality”

The Word.

He gave it to us.

Thank you Jesous Christos

John Chapter 1
Genesis Chapter 1


55 posted on 03/15/2021 2:56:02 AM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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