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1 posted on 06/02/2018 5:57:58 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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these experiments indicate that the everyday world we perceive does not exist until observed, which in turn suggests—as we shall argue in this essay—a primary role for mind in nature

Isn't that what Bishop Berkeley was saying all along?

2 posted on 06/02/2018 6:00:52 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: BenLurkin

Which means that I can manipulate time, space and matter with my mind. Sounds like fun.


3 posted on 06/02/2018 6:04:46 AM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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Shouldn’t the Physicists be studying the negative impacts of Global Warming on Quantum Physics?


4 posted on 06/02/2018 6:05:38 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: BenLurkin

Philosophy:401 If an electron goes through you imagination, is the thought generated now a physical reality?


5 posted on 06/02/2018 6:06:23 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: BenLurkin

Sorry; that makes no sense to me. I’m saying this with a straight face: more research needed.


7 posted on 06/02/2018 6:06:52 AM PDT by Romulus
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ping

(but only if anyone sees it)


8 posted on 06/02/2018 6:09:32 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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“According to QM, the world exists only as a cloud of simultaneous, overlapping possibilities”

QM is wrong.


9 posted on 06/02/2018 6:11:21 AM PDT by I want the USA back (*slam is a political system that uses a deity to advance its agenda of global conquest.)
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” the everyday world we perceive does not exist until observed”

I get the drift of this but, the language misses the mark.

Mixing Observation with Existence thrusts Mankind to the center of existence. Balderdash! says me.

G-d made the Heaven’s and Earth.
In simple notation, Things “ARE” or “AREN”T”. A=A.

This scientific pronouncement would make us all God.

Sorry, as a man of faith, I believe I am coming know G_d in my life, and you ain’t Him.


10 posted on 06/02/2018 6:15:12 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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All is know is if I hit my hand with a hammer, it “really” hurts like heck.


11 posted on 06/02/2018 6:15:50 AM PDT by Shark24
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To: BenLurkin

” the everyday world we perceive does not exist until observed”

I get the drift of this but, the language misses the mark.

Mixing Observation with Existence thrusts Mankind to the center of existence. Balderdash! says me.

G-d made the Heaven’s and Earth.
In simple notation, Things “ARE” or “AREN”T”. A=A.

This scientific pronouncement would make us all G_d.

Sorry, as a man of faith, I believe I am coming know G_d in my life, and you ain’t Him.


12 posted on 06/02/2018 6:16:53 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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If reality does not exist until a consciousness observes the superpositions, then what existed before there was any consciousness to observe anything at all? If no reality existed existed prior to consciousness, then what brought consciousness into being?

Are 6 six billion consciousnesses on earth each viewing the same reality? Or are each viewing their own reality? If each is viewing its own reality, then how do we have common perceptions of things?

What counts as an “observer” or a “measurer”? People only? People and animals? People, animals, insects, and one called creatures? Plants?


13 posted on 06/02/2018 6:17:02 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Our view is entirely naturalistic: the mind that underlies the world is a transpersonal mind behaving according to natural laws. It comprises but far transcends any individual psyche.


Uh...wouldn’t the “transpersonal mind” be G-d? So the consciousness of G-d made the universe what it is.

Or, more to the point: Life is but a dream.


14 posted on 06/02/2018 6:19:12 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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Sounds like solipsism to me and it’s tough to argue against a solipsist.


15 posted on 06/02/2018 6:21:44 AM PDT by xp38
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btt


18 posted on 06/02/2018 6:26:42 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY (The media is corrupt)
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Hugh Everett took his Many Worlds interpretation of QM seriously and smoke, drank and ate his way to an early death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Everett_III


21 posted on 06/02/2018 6:30:18 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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Only in recent years has the technology necessary for answering this question become accessible, enabling a string of experimental results—including startling ones reported in 2007 and 2010, and culminating now with a remarkable test reported in May—that show that key predictions of QM are indeed correct. Taken together, these experiments indicate that the everyday world we perceive does not exist until observed, which in turn suggests—as we shall argue in this essay—a primary role for mind in nature.

...

If John Wheeler were alive he would be thrilled.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Archibald_Wheeler


22 posted on 06/02/2018 6:32:11 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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Yes yes. Mind is senior to matter. Known for millenia. Finally the entropists begin to get a clue.


24 posted on 06/02/2018 6:33:28 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!w)
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these experiments indicate that the everyday world we perceive does not exist until observed, which in turn suggests—as we shall argue in this essay—a primary role for mind in nature.

But once reality does exist in a certain form,it is independent of consciousness and cannot be changed by consciousness, The law of identity is still true. A is still A. The nature of entities does not change just because it is observed over and over again.

26 posted on 06/02/2018 6:36:32 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Sorry, I changed the outcome of this article by clicking on it.


28 posted on 06/02/2018 6:44:01 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Sessions. Trust the Plan.)
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Only in recent years has the technology necessary for answering this question become accessible, enabling a string of experimental results—including startling ones reported in 2007 and 2010, and culminating now with a remarkable test reported in May.

...

While I believe in free will, that test in May assumes that humans have free will.


30 posted on 06/02/2018 6:50:39 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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