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Coming to Grips with the Implications of Quantum Mechanics
Scientific American ^ | May 29, 2018 | Bernardo Kastrup, Henry P. Stapp, Menas C. Kafatos on

Posted on 06/02/2018 5:57:58 AM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: BenLurkin

Hugh Everett took his Many Worlds interpretation of QM seriously and smoke, drank and ate his way to an early death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Everett_III


21 posted on 06/02/2018 6:30:18 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: BenLurkin

Only in recent years has the technology necessary for answering this question become accessible, enabling a string of experimental results—including startling ones reported in 2007 and 2010, and culminating now with a remarkable test reported in May—that show that key predictions of QM are indeed correct. Taken together, these experiments indicate that the everyday world we perceive does not exist until observed, which in turn suggests—as we shall argue in this essay—a primary role for mind in nature.

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If John Wheeler were alive he would be thrilled.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Archibald_Wheeler


22 posted on 06/02/2018 6:32:11 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: chajin

Esse est percipi.


23 posted on 06/02/2018 6:33:02 AM PDT by myerson
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To: BenLurkin

Yes yes. Mind is senior to matter. Known for millenia. Finally the entropists begin to get a clue.


24 posted on 06/02/2018 6:33:28 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!w)
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To: allendale

I think what the article is saying is that your thoughts and imagination are inseparable from what we intuitively call physical reality.


25 posted on 06/02/2018 6:36:26 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: BenLurkin
these experiments indicate that the everyday world we perceive does not exist until observed, which in turn suggests—as we shall argue in this essay—a primary role for mind in nature.

But once reality does exist in a certain form,it is independent of consciousness and cannot be changed by consciousness, The law of identity is still true. A is still A. The nature of entities does not change just because it is observed over and over again.

26 posted on 06/02/2018 6:36:32 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

If there is a designer outside of space and time setting it up, then these questions can be resolved. Like computer game designers programming a simulation, or like God.


27 posted on 06/02/2018 6:43:50 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: BenLurkin

Sorry, I changed the outcome of this article by clicking on it.


28 posted on 06/02/2018 6:44:01 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Sessions. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Paladin2

I have a HS classmate who is a physics professor at Brown, I believe. He wrote a paper along those lines a few years back.
Look up Brad Marston.


29 posted on 06/02/2018 6:45:06 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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To: BenLurkin

Only in recent years has the technology necessary for answering this question become accessible, enabling a string of experimental results—including startling ones reported in 2007 and 2010, and culminating now with a remarkable test reported in May.

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While I believe in free will, that test in May assumes that humans have free will.


30 posted on 06/02/2018 6:50:39 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Macoozie

I have to wonder if this might not be evidence of the hidden not material world and our connection to it through our soul that is leaking through to our reality.

Think of it as static in the reality projector of God.


31 posted on 06/02/2018 6:56:52 AM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: BenLurkin

What happens when two observing entities, one male and one female show love, appreciation and respect for one another and confirm it publicly? Very often a healthy child is born. What else is there to know about this? Just kidding.


32 posted on 06/02/2018 6:58:30 AM PDT by shineon
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To: Disambiguator

“Explore how our group is using theoretical and computational physics to better understand the planet, and address environmental challenges.

http://www.brown.edu/Research/Environmental_Physics/Environmental_Physics/Welcome.html


33 posted on 06/02/2018 6:58:57 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: BenLurkin

If it doesn’t lead to more powerful orgasms, who cares.


34 posted on 06/02/2018 7:06:01 AM PDT by Eddie01
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To: BenLurkin

Sounds more like philosophy than science.


35 posted on 06/02/2018 7:13:58 AM PDT by Brilliant
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What level of consciousness is required to settle the outcome of a quantum event?
Imagine the schrödinger's cat experiment with a few twists:
A radioactive isotope leaves a mark on a photographic plate, with a 50% probability.
A device reads the photographic plate and decides to kill the cat in the box, or not, depending on the reading.
A lab assistant opens the box and gets scared to death by the angry cat if alive, or not if it's dead.
Outside the lab, the outcome is still unknown (superpositioned), until a professor opens the door to the lab and finds the lab assistant alive or dead.
When does the quantum event get settled. By itself, the photographic plate, the mechanism that reads it, the cat, the lab assistant, the professor - or God?

36 posted on 06/02/2018 7:16:24 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: xp38

>> Sounds like solipsism to me <<

Beat me to it!

(And thanks, because I didn’t need to look up the correct spelling!)


37 posted on 06/02/2018 7:18:53 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: rbg81

” On the flip side, there can only be one truth. “

The point of the article is that there isn’t just one truth. There is one truth per person, so there are many truths.


38 posted on 06/02/2018 7:23:30 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: BenLurkin

Neither QM nor any other scientific theory is literally “true” in the metaphyscial sense.

Rather, each theory is basically an abstract model that uses simplifying assumptions to explain and predict events observed in the real world.

The assumptions themselves need not correspond to strict standards of “reality” as long as the predictions of the theory or model are accurate enough for whatever standards of utility we might impose.


39 posted on 06/02/2018 7:25:05 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: BenLurkin
"transpersonal mentations"

That's so gay.
Next thing, they will claim that,
Linear
Gluon
Beams
Temper
Quarks?

40 posted on 06/02/2018 7:28:32 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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