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To: mairdie

That wasn’t my question. I am very familiar with Plato, the dialogues, Plato’s Republic and with some of the “introduction to Philosophy” comments made about Plato and Socrates. I am very familiar with who Plato says Socrates was. I am not familiar with any writings of Socrates. It sounded like you and Cletus were privy to information I was unaware of.

Socrates did not write anything that I am aware of. Anything attributed to him is through Plato. Anything after Plato begins with Aristotle. There were thinkers before Plato and his ‘mentor’ Socrates.

IIRC Thales is credited as the first Philosopher. A bit later comes a name almost everyone is familiar with, which is Hipprocates. Some say he was a philosopher other just stop and say he was the father of medicine. Regardless, he was just prior to Socrates/Plato and his name is used in the title of the medical doctor’s Hippocratic oath.


1,100 posted on 05/10/2018 10:33:24 AM PDT by Kalam (Poor me, I have lost my tagline :())
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To: Kalam

I have already confessed that I am familiar with the method through study of the Bible and that Socrates [if that’s his REAL name] stole the method from God.


1,116 posted on 05/10/2018 10:41:35 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Kalam; All; Q
There were thinkers before Plato and his ‘mentor’ Socrates.

There were also great thinkers after them.

Did you know that Enchante, one of the most stringest Anti-Q cult trolls, dubbed me "The lesser Oracle" on an anti-Q hate fest thread?

I will now refer to myself as Bagster, the lesser oracle.

Thank you, Enchante.

Bagster the Lesser Oracle

1,126 posted on 05/10/2018 10:47:57 AM PDT by bagster ("She had brown sugar, all over her booga wooga." Bob Marley)
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To: Kalam

Socrates didn’t believe in writing. He believed that writing was a crutch, reducing the need for memory and weakening the mind. He thought that teaching should be done by speaking, and learning by listening.

Fortunately his student Plato, of a younger generation, caught the writing bug and documented Socrates’s works. Otherwise, we would know far less of Socrates than we do now.


1,136 posted on 05/10/2018 10:51:45 AM PDT by AZLiberty ("If we believe in absurdities, we commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: Kalam

Sloppy speech on my part, Kalam. Thanks for the correction. U of Chicago was a great school for original sources, so we read Plato in English translation, never textbooks about. The Symposium by Plato, featuring Socrates and others, was a wonderful read. The Republic, I must admit, bored me to tears. Math and physics used texts, but biology was still original sources. So we read Mendel, not about Mendel. THAT was fun. Their attempt to make us kill fruit flies, not fun.

http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/symposium.html


1,252 posted on 05/10/2018 12:50:52 PM PDT by mairdie
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