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To: jeffersondem; rockrr; HandyDandy
jeffersondem: "The Confederacy viewed the presence of U.S. troops in the South after legal secession as the presence of a foreign garrison."

So, do you now agree Davis ordered Civil War to begin at Fort Sumter?
It seem like such an obvious point, but one which our Lost Cause mythologizers spend endless posts denying.
So, are you breaking with their orthodoxy?

977 posted on 06/05/2018 6:13:42 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK; HandyDandy; DiogenesLamp

“So, do you now agree Davis ordered Civil War to begin at Fort Sumter?”

Reminds me of the homeowner who found the former owner of the property despoiling the place.

The homeowner asked the despoiler to leave. Instead, the despoiler pointed a weapon at the new owner in a threatening manner.

The new owner fired first resulting in the expulsion of the despoiler. Turns out no one was injured during the ruckus.

The whole thing was controversial. Progressives argued the person firing first is always wrong, no matter what.

Most reasonable people believe the new property owner was in the right because he first sought a peaceful end to the intrusion and when that failed, used reasonable and proportional force to defend his family.


990 posted on 06/05/2018 7:30:57 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: BroJoeK; jeffersondem
BJK. “So, do you now agree Davis ordered Civil War to begin at Fort Sumter?

Yes, BroJoeK, he did admit to that. He went so far as to say that Davis had full justification for attacking Sumter (the Foreign Garrison). I believe one exact quote was, “The Confederacy viewed the presence of U.S. troops in the South after legal secession as the presence of a foreign garrison.” Full attribution to J. Effersondem.

I’m off to bed. Hopefully, when I wake up tomorrow this thread will have cracked 1,000 posts and my work here will be done.

993 posted on 06/05/2018 9:54:55 PM PDT by HandyDandy (This space intentionally left blank.)
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