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To: jeffersondem
"I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

What you constantly overlook in your attempts to blame Lincoln for every crime in humanity is his quotes like that. The position of Douglas and every Southern leader you care to name was that the negro should be denied everything. Everything from education to the ability to work how and where they wanted to the very citizenship that white people enjoyed.

And in the first debate when Lincoln said, " I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and the black races. There is a physical difference between the two, which, in my judgment, will probably forever forbid their living together upon the footing of perfect equality, and inasmuch as it becomes a necessity that there must be a difference, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong having the superior position. I have never said anything to the contrary, but I hold that, notwithstanding all this, there is no reason in the world why the negro is not entitled to all the natural rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence, the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I hold that he is as much entitled to these as the white man. I agree with Judge Douglas he is not my equal in many respects-certainly not in color, perhaps not in moral or intellectual endowment. But in the right to eat the bread, without the leave of anybody else, which his own hand earns, he is my equal and the equal of Judge Douglas, and the equal of every living man." You, and people like you, will fixate on the first part and claim it's proof of Lincoln's bigotry while totally ignoring the second part and realizing that if your life depended on it you could not name a single Southern leader who believed black people were his equal in any way at all, or who believed that black people had any rights whatsoever that a white man was bound to respect. You judge Lincoln by 21st century standards because if you judged him by the standards of the times you would be forced to admit he was far more accepting than his peers. And where is the fun in that?

163 posted on 05/08/2018 3:52:48 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
“I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

Lincoln was both an advocate of white supremacy and an advocate of paternalism.

I'll grant you that.

And I can understand your not wanting the fact that his statements were popular vote-getters in the North to be brought up today.

350 posted on 05/08/2018 4:01:15 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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