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To: jeffersondem
The South wanted peace and was willing to negotiate all disagreements with the United States. That much is clear from the resolution passed by the Confederate Congress.

But that's not what you said way, way, way back in reply 1075. There you were referring to the U.S. as the "former owners" implying that change of ownership had taken place. Now you're saying that the South would have paid for it? Why would they pay for something you say that they owned?

“Resolved by the Confederate States of America in Congress Assembled, That it is the sense of this Congress that a commission of three persons be appointed by the President elect, as early as may be convenient after his inauguration, and sent to the government of the United States of America, for the purpose of negotiating friendly relations between that government and the Confederate States of America, and for the settlement of all questions of disagreement between the two governments upon principles of right, justice, equity, and good faith.”

When he wrote his letter to Lincoln why do you suppose Davis left out that part about settling matters of disagreement? Did he forget it? Or was he just not interested in that part do you think?

1,172 posted on 06/13/2018 11:43:17 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

“There you were referring to the U.S. as the “former owners” implying that change of ownership had taken place.”

Under the concept of eminent domain the Sovereign has a right to take possession of any property within its jurisdiction - and to negotiate the price afterward.

The South offered to negotiate this on the front end, and any other U.S. government claims, in a good faith attempt to avoid war.

Remember, states are the parents. States create counties. States create cities.

And states created the federal government. You seem to have forgotten that, as has Washington D.C.


1,192 posted on 06/13/2018 8:57:37 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: DoodleDawg; DiogenesLamp; BroJoeK; OIFVeteran; Bull Snipe; HandyDandy

“There you were referring to the U.S. as the “former owners” implying that change of ownership had taken place.”

Under the concept of eminent domain the Sovereign has a right to take possession of any property within its jurisdiction - and to negotiate the price afterward.

The South offered to negotiate this on the front end, and any other U.S. government claims, in a good faith attempt to avoid war.

Remember, states are the parents. States create counties. States create cities.

And states created the federal government. You seem to have forgotten that, as has Washington D.C.


1,193 posted on 06/13/2018 9:09:45 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: DoodleDawg; jeffersondem
jeffersondem quoting Confederates: "...the sense of this Congress that a commission of three persons be appointed by the President elect, as early as may be convenient after his inauguration, and sent to the government of the United States of America, for the purpose of negotiating friendly relations..."

Both Democrat President Buchanan and Republican President Lincoln said that Congress had constitutional authority over disposition of US properties.
But no Confederate commissioner ever approached Congress with offers to pay for seized Union properties, or for any other reason.

1,311 posted on 06/17/2018 7:19:12 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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