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The octane game: Auto industry lobbies for 95 as new regular
Automotive News ^ | April 17, 2018 @ 11:00 am | Richard Truett

Posted on 04/18/2018 3:40:59 PM PDT by outofsalt

"GM, Ford and Fiat Chrysler are seeking just one grade of fuel: 95. That would eliminate today's grades, generally 87 octane for regular, 88-90 for midgrade and 91-94 for premium." "In testimony Friday before the House Energy and Commerce Committee's environment subcommittee, Dan Nicholson, General Motors' vice president of global propulsion systems, said making 95 octane the new regular aligns the U.S. with Europe and is one of the most affordable ways to boost fuel economy and lower greenhouse gas emissions."

(Excerpt) Read more at autonews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Travel
KEYWORDS: gas
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To: rigelkentaurus

I can’t remember the details now, but I did prove to myself that some prior pickup truck of mine got better MPG with premium gas.


41 posted on 04/18/2018 4:30:42 PM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: metmom

I have a vintage GMC motorhome with a 455 cubic inch V8. Modern fuels do it no favors, had to replace the fuel lines, refurbish the gas tanks and finally went to a FITech aftermarket electronic fuel injection setup instead of the Quadrajet 4 barrel carburetor. It plays much more nicely on 91 octane ethanol-free than anything else, even still after all that to make it work on 87 octane with ethanol. I love the old thing so I’ll just pay extra. It’s a wonderful machine, way ahead of it’s time.


42 posted on 04/18/2018 4:32:15 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: outofsalt

the EUSSR is in great shape now isn’t it, it’s lovely and so free there.

now, why does Government Motors want us to copy the EUSSR? let me see off the top of my head.

0. puts us as a nation in line with globalist control.

1. saves them money on development and engineering

2. catches them up with their more successful competitors.

3. makes it easier to sell their poorer quality, gov’t subsidized cars.

4. boosts taxes so their gov’t subsidies go up.

5. signals their green virtue, even though there is no “global warming.”

6. asserts their control over the American oil industry.

7. gives them a hole to exploit for electric cars in the internal combustion market.

well, that’s enough for now. for a comment this is getting long.


43 posted on 04/18/2018 4:32:57 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: outofsalt

Something sounds fishy about this. Is Europe 95 octane the same as American 95 octane? Engines now are designed to run on 87 octane. Would there have to be changes to engines to support this? I agree with those that say get rid of the Ethanol. It’s bad for your engine.


44 posted on 04/18/2018 4:35:12 PM PDT by McGruff (Bring our troops home. Defend our border.)
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To: outofsalt
You're right on that. The more times this little generator saves my @ss the more I like it. I'm thinking it might even deserve a spare carburetor on the shelf just as a precaution.
45 posted on 04/18/2018 4:36:34 PM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: outofsalt

Remember when you could get 120 octane from Sunoco? My Road Runner used it...


46 posted on 04/18/2018 4:37:21 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: Carl Vehse

I would expect the new superpremium to run 20 to 50 cents a gallon more than the current premium. And it’s certainly more octane than any vehicle I have needs.

It would be a total waste of money for me. I wonder if anyone would come out with an inexpensive way to thin it down to meet real needs.


47 posted on 04/18/2018 4:38:11 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: McGruff

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Easier to meet fuel economy standards if you raise the compression ratio. Going from 87 to 95 would allow a huge increase in compression (and way more horses too).


48 posted on 04/18/2018 4:38:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Deplorable American1776

You can get 110 locally at a dirt track, some marinas and certainly at small airstrips. My Subaru turbo has a Cobb Accessport tuning system with five settings, from no turbo boost all the way up to requiring racing gas, 110 octane. I did it once just for a hoot, and it was. Totally different beast, glad to have had AWD in it, lol.


49 posted on 04/18/2018 4:39:22 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: outofsalt
all i run is 95-nocorn in the truck in order to keep the check engine light from coming on
50 posted on 04/18/2018 4:39:28 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

My mom wanted one of those GMC’s so bad. A relative who worked at GM explained they had an Oldsmobile platform. What color is yours? Aren’t they fiberglass bodies, too?


51 posted on 04/18/2018 4:41:14 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Probably EMP resistant as well.

Hang onto it for sure.

Did you ever read *One Second After*?


52 posted on 04/18/2018 4:41:43 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: outofsalt

Almost all of the increases are merely devaluation of the dollar (and some state/fed tax increases)


53 posted on 04/18/2018 4:42:47 PM PDT by JPJones (More tariffs, less income tax.)
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

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You probably conquered the “Knock sensor” in the generator by giving it higher octane fuel.

The sensors apply more current to a solenoid that backs off the throttle. (This is only on the ‘high end’ generators.)


54 posted on 04/18/2018 4:45:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: outofsalt
"1930 10 cents , 1940 11 cents , 1950 18 cents , 1960 25 cents ,..."

When, in 1945 (I was 12), I got my drivers license, I could caddy Saturday & Sunday making 15 cents for 18 holes. This gave me enough money for gas, fun, dates, etc...As long as I got the gas at the Jenny station...Had to manually pump your gas for 13 cents a gallon...

By my senior year in high school (1951), gas had gotten really expensive. However I could pump Jenny for 16-17 cents...In fact, most of my buddies pumped Jenny too...After graduation didn't worry about gas prices for a pretty long time since I went to Parris Island 2-weeks later...

55 posted on 04/18/2018 4:46:53 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Chode

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Check engine or Chuck engine?
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56 posted on 04/18/2018 4:47:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: yarddog
Dude that is totally awesome. Both the +200k and the third fill premium strategy.

How big is the tank? 7 or 8 gallons = ? 1/4 tank?

57 posted on 04/18/2018 4:48:46 PM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: Sontagged

The drivetrain is almost identical to what was used in a 1st generation Toronado, 455 V8, THM425 transaxle. It’s the original color, a very pale beige, almost white. Has a stripe down the middle of the side in bronze, rust and orange. It’s the Royale model. The front and rear caps as well as the lower sides are not quite fiberglass and not quite plastic, it’s the same material used in Corvettes of that period, called SMC, which is sheet molded compound. The upper body panels and roof are aircraft grade aluminum, on an aluminum cage. The rear tandem wheels are on an air suspension. It drives and rides similar to a full size Cadillac from that time period. If everything is aligned correctly you can drive it with your finger.


58 posted on 04/18/2018 4:49:11 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: editor-surveyor
well, it's a 97 4-runner with over 250,000mi so i'm hoping it'll last three more years then yeah, chuck it
59 posted on 04/18/2018 4:50:24 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

I believe it is 16 gallons.


60 posted on 04/18/2018 4:51:27 PM PDT by yarddog
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