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To: DiogenesLamp

Its pretty funny he’s still replying to me....days after I left the thread since I didn’t see any value in simply contradicting each other for the 17th time. He’s still replying to posts he’s already replied to a week or more ago. Somebody sure is desperate to keep spinning his wheels about this topic for hours on end every single day.

The case stands. Those at the time on all sides openly said it was in essence, a fiscal quarrel as Charles Dickens described it. It was all about money and empire - like most wars throughout history.


636 posted on 04/29/2018 5:11:24 PM PDT by FLT-bird (..)
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To: FLT-bird

“Those at the time on all sides openly said it was in essence, a fiscal quarrel as Charles Dickens described it. It was all about money and empire - like most wars throughout history.”

Except for the Confederates, like the ones who wrote the secession documents, who clearly said it was about slavery.


637 posted on 04/29/2018 6:02:26 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: FLT-bird; DiogenesLamp
FLT-bird: "Its pretty funny he’s still replying to me....days after I left the thread since I didn’t see any value in simply contradicting each other for the 17th time."

I see FLT-bird has the same disease which often grips DiogenesLamp -- having posted endless nonsense in very long pieces, you suddenly don't want to be bothered with acknowledging my slow & careful responses.

Typical.

FLT-bird: "He’s still replying to posts he’s already replied to a week or more ago."

No, no duplicate responses, though sometimes your very lengthy posts resulted in a need to break up my response into more than one shorter post.
So if it seems like I've posted the same response multiple times, it's only because you first posted the same nonsense multiple times.

FLT-bird: "The case stands.
Those at the time on all sides openly said it was in essence, a fiscal quarrel as Charles Dickens described it.
It was all about money and empire - like most wars throughout history."

Sure, nobody disputes that some people claimed it was not about "slavery, slavery, slavery" but rather about "money, money, money", of course they did, including some Brits who hated Northerners, like your Charles Dickens.

But that's not what secessionists said in late 1860 and early 1861.
See my post #649 for a review of the "Reasons for secession" documents.

Nor did Lincoln ever say "money, money, money".
Lincoln gave three reasons for military actions:

  1. In April 1861, 75,000 troops to return unlawfully seized Federal properties.
  2. In July 1861, 400,000 more troops to restore the Union.
  3. By January 1863 to emancipate slaves.

694 posted on 05/02/2018 2:31:42 PM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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