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FLT-bird to DiogenesLamp: "A cause they did not even discover they were actually fighting for until two years into the conflict.....
after being told this is what they were fighting for by Mill.....
despite the offer of slavery expressly protected by constitutional amendment that would still be irrevocable even today without the consent of the dlaveholding states and despite the nearly unanimous resolution passed by Congress declaring this is not what they were fighting for and despite Lincoln’s repeated denials that this is what they were fighting for."

In a nutshell:

In 1860 Republicans were the party of abolitionists leading Southern Fire Eaters to threaten secession if Lincoln won election.
He did and secessionists cited slavery as their number one reason, if not their only reason.
Civil war started not over slavery but over Federal properties and restoring the Union.
However, slavery quickly became important in the form of "contraband of war", who were freed and employed to support the Union war efforts.
By war's end Lincoln's emancipation proclamation, plus 13th, 14th & 15th amendments made the consequence of Civil War exactly the thing 1860 Fire Eaters declared secession to prevent.
Today's Lost Cause mythologizers just can't get over slavery, secession, rebellion, emancipation, abolition & full citizenship so they spend endless hours caterwauling cockamamie cognitive confusion about "power & money" over tariffs & "unfair spending".

He did and secessionists cited slavery as their number one reason, if not their only reason.

All four of them. Or was it only three? I forget. I know it wasn't all 11 states, but in our modern discussions of this, it has become common place to accept that this minority of states represents the majority. Dishonest, that.

Civil war started not over slavery but over Federal properties and restoring the Union.

"Federal Properties" is just the token excuse. Fort Sumter was useless, and never served the nation's interest in any fashion other than as an excuse to start a war with people cutting the money stream to New York and Washington. Fort Sumter was only manned for a very short time after the war, only to maintain the pretense that it had some kind of value or importance to the USA. Eventually they realized it was no longer worth the trouble to keep up the pretense, and so they just stopped, and it has been basically abandoned ever since.

"Federal Properties" my @$$. It always was just an excuse.

Today's Lost Cause mythologizers just can't get over slavery, secession, rebellion, emancipation, abolition & full citizenship so they spend endless hours caterwauling cockamamie cognitive confusion about "power & money" over tariffs & "unfair spending".

And here is where you just smear people because they are whipping your @$$ in the raw facts of the debate. I don't give a sh*t about full citizenship for freed slaves, and I contend that was going to eventually happen anyways. What bothers me is the fact that some Plutocracy that is still running Washington DC today, launched a war over money that killed 750,000 people directly, possibly another 2 million indirectly, destroyed the relationship between the States and the Federal government which the Founders had established, and created the gargantuan borrow and spend monster that is currently eating us alive today.

You want to keep the topic on slavery, because it is the only possible way to pretend the civil war was not a horrible disaster, which it was, and it is also the only moral justification of which anyone can think for what was done. The problem is, it's just wrong. It isn't supported by the facts, and the Corwin amendment alone should make that clear to any objective person.