[Alberta's Child]

No, they’re just people who lived for years in rural backwaters and then got moved into cities where they can’t even figure out the minimal standards of public conduct.

[GoldenState_Rose]

Many people died and experience tremendous suffering in the "rural backwaters" of China... and urbanized people suffer their own inner demons, but they're masked better.

This is a country which has traditionally had a "one child" policy - do you know how many women alone bear the scars of abortion? Often forced?

Look, I have only lived in the former Soviet Union (Russia)- and spent time in South Korea also. Traumas can linger for generations. Especially when they go un-addressed. And these places BRIMM with post traumatic stress: from war, from political abuse, etc...it's not just poverty.

[GoldenState_Rose]

Oops. Sorry when I said “Look” I meant that I hadn’t been to China but other places with similar historical backdrops. Don’t mean for tone to sound harsh. Sorry.

Freedom is precious.

And your friend didn’t mention that even rich, sophisticated businessmen in debt fall under bad “social credit” category...not just mentally ill rural people. (Who sadly need help, which is why any crackdown on Christianity is so terrible.)