Posted on 03/17/2018 8:09:32 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
That’s a problem for braiders like Fatou Diouf, a small braiding business owner who is suffering because of a stifling $16,000 in fines she’s been ordered to pay.One of her braiders reportedly did not have a government license to braid hair in her shop and that runs afoul of the Tennessee Board of Cosmetology and Barber Examiners policy. As a result, Diouf the fine was levied against her as a disciplinary action..... In 2012, a Utah woman who braids hair to supplement her family’s income won a federal lawsuit against the state over its licensing process for her craft, arguing state regulations violated her right to earn a living.
A federal judge ruled that the state’s requirement that Jestina Clayton get a cosmetology license to braid hair was “unconstitutional and invalid” because regulations are irrelevant to Clayton’s profession.
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Too many illegal aliens around here selling food on the streets and setting up restaurants and hiring illegals with diseases.
I'd die before I knew where it was safe to eat.
She should call herself a hair artist.
May artisinal things do not require licensing.
You don’t need to lecture me.
I’m done now
Historically, people selling / bartering their services were probably clueless about health problems until a third party investigated and identified a possible pattern, not that a give problem was even close to being reasonably understood.
”… and, did the courts step in first or did big government regulators butt in first."
That’s a tough one, for me anyway.
Peoples' understanding of the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers seem to be based on rumors, hearsay, gossip for the most part. This has always given bullies the opportunity to infiltrate and use government power to fraud citizens by simply declaring that something was either “constitutional” or “unconstitutional” based on special interest agenda.
In other words, for a given legal argument, if both government and citizen are wrong about how Constitution should be interpreted, the government’s wrong argument wins by default.
Also, since many state governments modeled themselves on the federal government, they inadvertently based state policies on politically correct understanding of how the federal government is supposed to work.
This is not only a case of the blind leading the blind, but regardless that the states established the federal government and have absolute control of the feds through the Constitution, the blind states now submit to the blind feds, most federal domestic policy based on stolen state powers imo.
Something like that.
It’s a big mess.
My son in law is a licensed plumber, they say “The plumber protects the health of the nation”. It’s true.
After completing a five-year apprenticeship and passing the state test, he is required four hours of continuing education each year.
Not all this BS for a hair braider.
I have another relative that is a physician, at his graduation many years ago, they said, in the last century modern plumbing added 15 years to American lives, modern medicine add two years.
Nice to see a federal judge with a brain. We need more of them.
think those things are nasty but that’s just my opinion. When I was a kid my hair was braided daily but at the end of the day the braids came out and my hair washed about every other day. I have seen the braids being talked about here stay in for what seemed like weeks.””
Yes, can you imagine how filthy and greasy that nasty stuff gets? Nauseating.
I have not been in a barbershop since Superbowl XX.
The two old Italian guys I went to retired and sold the shop to young one.
The day after a trim, a trainee is standing behind me in the elevator, I hear him stifling a laugh. Asking what is so funny, he asks if I cut my own hair? Because it is trimmed on a 30-degree angle on the back of my head!( the TV had replays on in the shop.)
I worked with a bunch of crusty old engineers and most of them cut their own hair; they always suggested I do the same.
On the way home I purchased a hair clipper with a how-to video; never returned. My wife does the back parts and not much left on top.
Worksite inspections, and perhaps four hours of instruction annually for a hair braider.
No need for 2000 hours of instruction.
1500 hrs of flight time for the copilot on airlines.
Used to be much less.
Earl Scheib!
A blast from the past.
NO UPS, NO EXTRAS!!!!!!!!
Many of my friends used his services.
The claim was if you do the prep work they did an OK paint job.
See reply #88.
See reply #85.
My daughter is an electrical engineer but before that she went to school to get her license as a nail tech. She worked in a salon where they also did braids. A lot of salons provide multiple services. She said they were disgusting. She didn't even want to work at a station close to where they were doing braids (taking them down, washing, re-braiding, etc). She got sick of nasty toenails and nasty braids so she went on to something better. :-)
“It is the same incumbency kind of system the ancient guilds became.”
Occasionally there were religious zealots that worked on building the cathedrals of old for free!
The guild members would take them for a long one-way walk in the nearby woods.
Thanks for responding to my post re “Continuing Education”.
After reading your comments several times, I must say, respectfully, that I’m not quite sure which way you are leaning. To be clear, I don’t support CE or TREC as it/they is/are administered today. Like all things “government”, it’s simply gotten out of hand. A bunch of people have gathered in Austin conference rooms every year for years and wrote up a bunch of rules influenced by special interest’s and “voila” we have an atrocity called the Texas Real Estate Commission.
Long posts on FR don’t get read so I will boil it down to this. They need to erase the chalkboard on CE and TREC generally and start over. Nobody should be put out of business due to anything related to a CE class. Period. Reasonable monetary fines, yes. Out of business, No!
I would say it is fair to say that TREC bs has become as moronic on it’s face as requiring a license in Tennessee to braid someone’s hair.
Now, if there’s a bandit broker and he continually violates the rules nail him, or someone violates even one time, nail them with taking CE’s. But for guys and gals like me that go 40 years and hundreds or thousands of deals without a complaint, being put out of business is just ridiculous.
I don’t know if it’s still the same but beauty supply shops used to post signs saying cosmetology license was required to purchase certain products.
Most of the clerks would look the other way unless they were petty _#tches.
I don’t have the mirror setup or flexibility to cut my hair at home like I used to.
I get three or four inches trimmed off the bottom once or twice a year.
I also color it myself.
I can do it just as good as the salon for a fraction of the cost and no burning and I get many compliments on my hair.
I only have to do it 3-4 times a year. If I get supplies on sale, I can take care of my hair for under $100 a year.
I don’t mess with getting pedi/manis either. It’s a waste of money unless you’re too old or crippled up to reach your feet.
I do almost everything humanly possible myself before I pay anyone else to. I save a ton of money and usually do a better job.
It’s so much better doing things yourself if you can.
I love not panicking every time I get a check engine light!
This one is ridiculous.
I was just pointing out that braiding isn’t as innocuous as it sounds.
“I have another relative that is a physician, at his graduation many years ago, they said, in the last century modern plumbing added 15 years to American lives”
I would think that the sewer systems (no more out houses) and the modern materials for indoor piping systems, and water treatment systems connected to that were each and collectively bigger factors in that than the plumbers themselves. Once those big systems were figured out, designed, put in place and fell into common usage, learning the “plumbing trade” was a much smaller accomplishment.
I’d ask the son in law about it but he is doing his continuing education for his plumbing license as I type.
I did find this quote.
Dr. Lewis Thomas, medical author and former president of New York’s Sloan Kettering Cancer Research Center, wrote in The Foreign Policy Journal, Spring 1984: “There is no question that our health has improved spectacularly in the past century. One thing seems certain: It did not happen because of improvements in medicine, or medical science, or even the presence of doctors; much of the credit should go to the plumbers and sanitary engineers of the western world.”
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