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To: greeneyes

The Khazarian argument is used by anti-Semites, especially supporters of ‘Palestine’, to obviate any European Jewry claim to Israel with the added feature of invalidating Old Testament texts of the Babylonian Diaspora.

DNA studies of those with European Jewish ancestry have instead verified a chain of Semitic DNA reaching back to Biblical times.

The entire issue is fraught and best consigned to peripheral status, IMO, although many would probably be just as happy to disown the Rothschilds.


831 posted on 03/10/2018 4:13:49 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

The Khazarian argument is used by anti-Semites, especially supporters of ‘Palestine’, to obviate any European Jewry claim to Israel with the added feature of invalidating Old Testament texts of the Babylonian Diaspora.______________________

That’s one assertion but there are others and I think it’s an exaggeration to relegate all mention of Khazarian to “anti-semites.” There are scholars who’ve said that a ruler converted to Judaism and his people did so as a matter of course. Now, those scholars can be wrong but not everyone studying history and the conversion of rulers etc. has it in for Israel. As a Christian, I believe that the Jews are the apple of God’s eye and that my beloved, Christ, was a Jew. I read such fallible, neutral reports re history and was myself accused of anti-semitism. Uhmmm..no. I believe God has said no one will divide Israel and that He has given it to the Jews.

Initially I never consider the Rothschilds Jewish because I never had reason to contemplate their heritage. Once told they were Jewish I was also told they were Satanists.

From just my own personal (Christian) perspective, I would consider a person of Jewish descent who decides to practice Satanism, a Satanist. That is the true heritage of the Rothschilds. Personally, I don’t believe having Jewish DNA makes one a Jew as much as it is embracing the culture/heritage or faith so I don’t consider a Rothschild of Jewish decent a negative reflection on those of Jewish descent. Re Rothschilds, I think of the biblical verse that says, they “say they are Jews but they are not.”


929 posted on 03/10/2018 8:05:36 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: reformedliberal

Well, according to Wikipedia, there are some anti-semites who try to say that the Ashkenazi come from the Kazarian, (Kazars were of Turkish origin), likely for the purposes you have stated.

The theory that European Jews (Ashkenazi) are from Kazar is not accepted by scholars. The Ashkenazi migrated and settled along the Rhine River in Germany and France. DNA studies support their lineage from Israelites.

However, Kazars were people of Turkish descent who were ordered by their king to convert. It is NOT anti-Semitic to acknowledge that there was such a Kazarian kingdom.

It IS anti-semetic to claim Ashkenazi Jews of Europe came from Kazar for the purpose of invalidating them. The Jews of Europe by and large, did NOT descend from Kazars, per Wikipedia.

All of which is irrelevant to me, because according to the bible, the entire world descended from Noah. So whatever faith they practice, that’s what they are, and they should be able to live wherever they want.

The only reason I have any knowledge of it, is due to researching the Rothschilds and the claim that their ancestors were Kazars.


1,035 posted on 03/10/2018 10:48:40 AM PST by greeneyes
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To: reformedliberal

I have been waiting for somebody else to bring that up

Khazarian

My initial red pills included Khazarian mob/mafia and I looked into them too, but have not heard or seen them mentioned again in the two+ months now that I have been looking into this. So much between I had forgotten about that connection.


1,064 posted on 03/10/2018 11:12:13 AM PST by AzNASCARfan
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