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Dad should be charged with abuse. I understand the need for discipline but this is really bad—optics and reality. He is further reinforcing the bully—Dad in this case. Kid will emulate. Very sad current and future for this 10 year old. 10!


9 posted on 03/06/2018 9:24:40 AM PST by Reno89519 (Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
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To: Reno89519

I really hope you forgot the sarcasm tag.


12 posted on 03/06/2018 9:27:15 AM PST by okkev68
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To: Reno89519

Stuff like this is what made me call you a leftist before.

This post you posted is insane.


15 posted on 03/06/2018 9:30:51 AM PST by Lazamataz (What America needs is more Hogg control.)
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To: Reno89519

You have friggin got to be kidding me. Dad didn’t raise a hand to him. He punished him. It is like when I was a kid and screwed up my mother made me transcribe pages out of our dictionary. I ended up with a wondrous vocabulary, am able to write faster than most people can type and learned discipline.

The kid got a workout and odds are he will not be acting the bully again soon.


19 posted on 03/06/2018 9:32:52 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: Reno89519

Maybe the kid is a bully because of issues with Dad.


32 posted on 03/06/2018 9:54:15 AM PST by Cecily
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To: Reno89519

Yeah, what a big meanie dad is. He should have patted him on the head and told him what a good boy he is.

Not!


34 posted on 03/06/2018 9:55:33 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Reno89519

This is called behavior modification. I walked to school or rode my bike in light rain a hundred times in third grade. That kid will be glad to behave on the bus next week.


41 posted on 03/06/2018 10:18:52 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Reno89519

Bs. It’s not abuse. You’re the typical Dr. Spock type that raises out of control brats that shoot up high schools.


42 posted on 03/06/2018 10:18:57 AM PST by CodeToad (Dr. Spock was an idiot!)
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To: Reno89519

Reno89519, like another poster opined, I think you are a little oversensitive to this. I can understand how it might be difficult for certain people to step back and look at it dispassionately, I think you should try.

I think this is great parenting. He is demonstrating that actions have consequences. If there were more people who did this, we might not have as many ill-behaved snowflakes as we apparently do.


49 posted on 03/06/2018 10:29:15 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette)
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To: Reno89519

Yeah yeah yeah, kid dindu nuffin bad, we get ya.


51 posted on 03/06/2018 10:29:40 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Reno89519

Sure... I was surprised that Family services had not arrested the father for punishing his son by having him run to school and home again for three days.
Personally, I think it’s a novel idea for punishment where exercise is used to give the boy a purpose. He may become in later life the next Roger Bannister. Who knows.


62 posted on 03/06/2018 11:30:57 AM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: Reno89519

You’re part of the problem.


68 posted on 03/06/2018 12:06:54 PM PST by gogeo (excellent!)
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To: Reno89519
Dad should be charged with abuse. I understand the need for discipline but this is really bad—optics and reality. He is further reinforcing the bully—Dad in this case. Kid will emulate. Very sad current and future for this 10 year old. 10!

Parenting is now child abuse?
Not all children are the same, and some are more equal than others.
Ultimately if a "child' (up to the absurd age of 26?) commits horrendous crimes the parents usually are the main suspects.

Most mentally healthy adults readily admit that severe parenting prevented them from joining the ranks of the dysfunctional at best or the criminal as the other extreme.

There is never a second chance to get it right.
Parents need the benefit of the doubt, all factors and circumstances taken into account.
Don't ask me my opinion of bureaucratic do-gooders, judges and bureaucrats.

69 posted on 03/06/2018 12:17:42 PM PST by publius911 (Am I pissed? You have NO idea...)
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To: Reno89519
Dad should be charged with abuse. I understand the need for discipline but this is really bad—optics and reality.

You must not have any kids. And if you ever do, I sure hope it's not in my neighborhood... I speak from experience.

70 posted on 03/06/2018 12:29:28 PM PST by publius911 (Am I pissed? You have NO idea...)
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To: Reno89519

Walking to school is abuse?


74 posted on 03/06/2018 2:37:10 PM PST by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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To: Reno89519

What do you believe is abusive about this?

I’ve been accused of preparing food the kids don’t prefer to eat, making them eat at home rather than taking them to a fast food place, grabbing a kid’s arm to prevent him from jumping out of a moving car, pulling a kid out of bed by his feet when he refused to get up for school, swearing in front of him because I said “crap,” psychological abuse which he couldn’t define to the investigator, and sexual abuse for making the kids bathe. Eight reports of abuse (and counting) so far and all unfounded.


76 posted on 03/07/2018 4:48:39 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Reno89519; All

“Dad should be charged with abuse.”

I’m going to give you a bit more than others just for the sake of argument.

I know “bullies.” I was a small boy in grammar school. When I was 7 I was walking to my parochial school on my own, rain or shine. On the way I had to pass this one house within a block of the school. Deviating meant more than 4 blocks added to my walk; I never deviated. I had this family of boys - 3 of them, ranging in age from what I’d guess to be 14 to 10 - who gave me shit every time they saw me walk by either in the morning or afternoon. They’d throw things at me and the oldest went so far as to chase me down and knock me to the ground. I cannot say with any certainty at all the thoughts I had at the time or what I did to end the attacks, but they ended as suddenly as they began. Conclude what you will, but my memory of childhood was never very strong.

Thus, 4 years later when I was once again targeted by a “bully” my tolerance level was much lower and I was a little bigger. He cornered me after a mere week or so of touch-n-go and I delivered a right cross which didn’t quite connect. I ended up on my back with him on top.

The net result was not what you’d expect: He became my best friend until he committed suicide years later.

I became friends with the family and came to know his mother & father before they passed. My friend was the youngest of 8 children and one of two remaining in the house. Dad was a furniture upholsterer and didn’t have an evil bone in his body. Mom was a hard case - an RN - but never expected more out of anyone than the best they could give. We spent a lot of time together and I relish our camping trips for the memories. My friend simply craved attention and, after we became friends, curiously-abandoned his bullying for the rest of his 26-year life.

While in high school I was one of a student body of over 2000 (our class alone was >500). As a frosh athlete I was now larger than many of the kids in my class, but still a midget compared to many of the black kids which were transported to our school from across town in the name of diversity. Very quickly as a freshman you nail down the cliques and bullies. One such clique revolved around one very, very tall black kid who enjoyed roaming the halls and slamming locker doors shut on students. One day he did the same to me.

Picture a white boy confronting a gaggle of black bullies, standing 5-7 looking up at their ringleader who stood over 6-8.

He never bothered me again. In fact, none of his gaggle ever troubled me either. That bully - the tall one - later went on to retire from a successful career with a west coast NBA team and is a respected philanthropist and community member. Later I ruminated how I graduated without a racist bone in my body; I credit my parents.

Summary: Coddling young boys who act out - regardless the reason - is a pathetic response to a boy who clearly requires structure & discipline. Granted, I concede that everyone knows someone with a “Cinderella” experience (perfect family, perfect life, perfect boy...supposedly), but that is far from mainstream.

Look at the stats for young men these days. I also know abuse, which in my own case neither came from my family nor compromised me as an adult. I was a shy kid, but I overcame that facet of my life.

Your comment truly requires elaboration on your definition of “discipline,” as your vagueness in replies demonstrates an argumentative stance.

Right now, you’re looking quite the fool with your pompous comment against a father doing what needs to be done to raise a man.

Taking away the iPhone or the game console for a week is not discipline. I also know discipline and thank my father to this day for what he later admitted was most painful for him (belt/butt), but 100% necessary at the time and I would recommend the same to our boy if & when he has kids and the need arises.

Oddly enough, the need never arose for him and I couldn’t be more proud of him as a young man facing life’s challenges with a clear non-liberal mindset despite his grandmother and childhood friends.


78 posted on 03/07/2018 11:18:18 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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