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To: Diogenesis; Liz; MayflowerMadam; ExTexasRedhead; jag; ransomnote; MNDude; bagster; Swordmaker; ...
We need legal expertise and FR lawyer for post #125.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3635315/posts?page=125#125

Those who know lawyers, please have them look at this for opinions. All opinions/reads are welcome.

No flaming please.

158 posted on 02/26/2018 3:54:28 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot

Interesting. Wonder if it’s “a thing”.


176 posted on 02/26/2018 4:31:09 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: SkyPilot; Diogenesis; Cboldt; ransomnote
Cboldt posted above: https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/20144607/Grand_Jury,_Sovereigns_of_the_Court_v_US_Congress_et_al

If you look at the "Opinions" page you'll see:

DECISION AND ORDERED, that Plaintiffs Complaint (Dkt. No. 1) is DISMISSED without prejudice; and it is further ORDERED, that if Plaintiff wishes to proceed with this action, it must obtain counsel within thirty days of this Decision and Order; and it is further ORDERED, that if Plaintiff fails to obtain counsel within thirty days, the Complaint (Dkt. No. 1) shall be dismissed with prejudice, without further order of the Court. Signed by Senior Judge Lawrence E. Kahn on June 14, 2017. (Copy served via regular and certified)(sas)

My take (not a lawyer in real life lol) - there are provisions in law such that an ordinary person can present legal actions in such way so that issues which are ignored by Justice Dept(s) and/or Court(s), the people can do their own - in this case somebody put this "indictment" together and filed such with the Court and it was assigned to "John D. Hoggan, Jr. U.S. Department Of Justice - Albany Office". Seems he basically said, "yeah right" and the Court then "DISMISSED without prejudice" - meaning that the Court wasn't precluding the filing party from continuing but then admonished, "it is further ORDERED, that if Plaintiff wishes to proceed with this action, it must obtain counsel within thirty days of this Decision and Order; and it is further ORDERED, that if Plaintiff fails to obtain counsel within thirty days, the Complaint (Dkt. No. 1) shall be dismissed with prejudice, without further order of the Court."

In other words - "hey buddy, get a lawyer and if your lawyer will bring this case then we'll go through the motions again; otherwise it will be dismissed for good if left to languish". The action was first filed last year as I believe ransomnote remembered - but there is additional action from last week, at which time it appears it was actually filed by the Court - noting that they referred to it as a "Document titled "Indictment" - meaning it's not a real indictment per se but rather a document TITLED such. The Clerk then noted, "this is a Closed Case, no action to be taken."

Thanks for the follow-ups here - when I saw Diogenesis post I thought WTH too lol - any further info might be obtained from Pacer for $ but I'm not sure it's worth it - if anything were to come of that, previously, now or in the future - I'm sure we'll hear more about it ;)
210 posted on 02/26/2018 7:10:19 PM PST by Steven W.
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