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Anybody think this wouldn't work?
1 posted on 02/22/2018 7:35:33 AM PST by Cubs Fan
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I do, among other measures.


2 posted on 02/22/2018 7:36:22 AM PST by cranked
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Actually did that in Dallas ISD schools, weapons still made it through the system, violence still taking place.


3 posted on 02/22/2018 7:36:43 AM PST by rstrahan
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It would certainly help, but it reinforces the fact that government schools are like prisons and the society in schools is very much like that in prisons. The real solution is an end to government education and the privatization of ed at all levels. Also, no more compulsory attendance.

Cardinals fan here. :-)


4 posted on 02/22/2018 7:38:04 AM PST by Pining_4_TX (For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind. ~ Hosea 8:7)
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Of course it would work, but the Left would be against it just for that reason. Their main goal is gun grabbing, not school safety.


5 posted on 02/22/2018 7:38:30 AM PST by odawg
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as you cause a bottle neck of people waiting to enter, a truck can plow through the crowd killing more than 17. so you put up barracades to stop vehicles, then an IED is hurled over it into the crowd...

there is no stopping those who are intent on doing harm... we can only respond in kind to stop it.


7 posted on 02/22/2018 7:40:37 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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you forgot, lock external doors while school is in session


8 posted on 02/22/2018 7:41:13 AM PST by chemical_boy
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Too many schools here in Florida are open campuses, with kids walking to different buildings between classes. Even elementary school students must go to different buildings for the library, cafeteria, etc.


9 posted on 02/22/2018 7:43:38 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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Seems simple to me. Why wasn’t this done years ago?


10 posted on 02/22/2018 7:43:58 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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That’s the way it’s done in our school. It works, kinda. But illegal stuff still gets in occasionally. And here’s how. Student A goes through the security process. He’s clean.

Then Student A goes to a remote part of the building - maybe a restroom - and opens a window. Student B - who is waiting outside - throws the contraband through the open window.

Sometimes Student B isn’t even needed. Student A will leave the contraband on the window sill the night before.

I guess this method could be thwarted by stationing teachers outside on all sides of the building, all day long.


13 posted on 02/22/2018 7:46:37 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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Control all access to schools. NO private vehicles, all bussed in and dropped in a secure area undergoing full pat down/xray inspection. No backpacks allowed.


14 posted on 02/22/2018 7:46:52 AM PST by redcatcherb412 (Emerged intact.)
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Or ,..... best answer ..... HOME SCHOOL


16 posted on 02/22/2018 7:47:42 AM PST by redcatcherb412 (Emerged intact.)
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Gee, just like they do at courthouses, airports, federal office buildings, and so forth.


17 posted on 02/22/2018 7:48:43 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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One story said that Florida high school had 4000 students. So, more than one entrance might be needed but that is not a big deal. They can study, for example, what baseball does, I have seen pro-games and have had to go through metal detectors.


19 posted on 02/22/2018 7:49:00 AM PST by BeadCounter
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In a smaller school...maybe.

You would have to go and hire six to eight folks to be there between 7 and 8:30, to check entry, and have at least three there for the remainder of the day. Fenced off school required. Most simply aren’t made or designed in the fashion you suggest. My old school had at least sixteen ways you could enter the grounds.

But why really stop there? Why not have an analysis done over the school population, and just start to identify trouble-makers? Bring them in with the parents and lay down the law. You screw up or challenge the authority of a teacher....you leave for two weeks. The second time....the remainder of the school-year, then you repeat the year.

Accepting the school being some of ‘zoo-operation’....like what they had in Broward County is unacceptable.


20 posted on 02/22/2018 7:49:08 AM PST by pepsionice
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A way to stop school shootings

Home school your kids. Get them out of government sponsored indoctrination centers.

21 posted on 02/22/2018 7:50:38 AM PST by windsorknot
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Adequately trained new government employee at every entrance of every school. Wouldn’t surprise me if the left feigns disapproval but eventually accedes since it would mean higher taxes and bigger government. No thanks. The kids should have been locked up after his initial threat. The FBI should be torn apart. And drug use should be scrutinized immensely.


23 posted on 02/22/2018 7:50:51 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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Single point of failure: all the students are lined up like fish in a barrel to go through the check point. Maniac with a gun doesn’t have to get inside the school to mow people down from a distance. There’s no way to completely stop this. It’s the liberal utopia’s wet dream - a morally corrupted society with unsolvable problems that require more and more laws by the elites to control the unwashed masses. End goal: stinking dictatorship.


25 posted on 02/22/2018 7:51:54 AM PST by bluejean (The lunatics are running the asylum)
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It would be one part of security, but it cannot stand alone. Fire doors could still be opened from the inside, and a team like we saw in Columbine could defeat it thusly. There is no substitute for having an armed presence in schools, whatever form that ends up taking. It would deny shooters the opportunity to go from classroom to classroom killing along the way.


26 posted on 02/22/2018 7:51:54 AM PST by dirtboy
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I'm not military but I know "shell defenses" have their own dangers.

IIRC the perps at Columbine left a window unlocked so they could get in the school unnoticed. Schools must have fire doors that open from the inside; that means someone already inside can let in armed murderers.

Student athletes, staff, maintenance people, cafeteria deliveries, all go in and out all day, the "shell" is easily penetrated.

You need defense in depth, someone to deal with predators that are already inside the wire.

28 posted on 02/22/2018 7:58:44 AM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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Machine gun nests and concertina wire is the only answer.

— Obviously kidding around, but at my kid’s school they put a very formidable fence around the place, making it look like a prison. My wife scolded me because I made a joke about that, only because she wanted me to be mindful that we didn’t want it to be a place my kid DIDN’T want to go to. But then I told her, look how the kids are made to line up, head counts, etc. It’s like training for prison. With books.


29 posted on 02/22/2018 7:59:21 AM PST by cld51860 (Volo pro veritas)
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