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How Hannibal's crossing of the Alps with 30,000 soldiers was even harder than first thought
Daily Mail ^ | 17 February 2018 | Claudia Joseph

Posted on 02/18/2018 8:40:47 AM PST by mairdie

How Hannibal's crossing of the Alps with 30,000 soldiers was even harder than first thought as researchers find he took a perilous route on a narrow bridle path 9,500ft above sea level

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Soil containing traces of horse manure has been carbon dated to 218BC, the time of HannibalÂ’s crossing, and shows that he took the Col de la Traversette, a narrow bridle path 9,500ft above sea level that links the Guil Valley in France with the Po Valley in Italy.

Previous speculation that he took this direct route had been discounted because of its sheer difficulty, with gradients as steep as 1:3.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: alps; carbon14; coldelatraversette; france; godsgravesglyphs; guilvalley; hannibal; horsemanure; italy; povalley; radiocarbondating; romanempire
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To: mairdie

No 7-11’s, no Motel 6’s, no GPS. What was he thinking anyway? Geeeez!


21 posted on 02/18/2018 9:23:35 AM PST by Don Corleone (.leave the gun, take the canolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: mairdie

Interesting, thanks! I found this article from 2016 which has some good details on this kind of research:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/apr/03/where-muck-hannibals-elephants-alps-italy-bill-mahaney-york-university-toronto


22 posted on 02/18/2018 9:27:02 AM PST by Enchante (FusionGPS "dirty dossier" scandal links Hillary, FBI, CIA, Dept of Justice... "Deep State" is real)
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To: jmacusa

What’s funny is that stuff like that almost certainly happened, but sadly we’ll never know.


23 posted on 02/18/2018 9:30:40 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: mairdie

24 posted on 02/18/2018 9:32:00 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Jim 0216

Good point! Or they had some damn toll collector who wouldn’t give them a volume break. (maybe an ancestor of one of those toll road shills here)


25 posted on 02/18/2018 9:33:07 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: BobL

It’s a wonder that Hannibal won what with all the regulations and bureaucracies - worse than the Roman legions.


26 posted on 02/18/2018 9:37:43 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: All

This is a good one:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-hannibal-crossed-the-alps-180963671/


27 posted on 02/18/2018 9:40:08 AM PST by Enchante (FusionGPS "dirty dossier" scandal links Hillary, FBI, CIA, Dept of Justice... "Deep State" is real)
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To: Jim 0216

IIRC, none of Hannibal’s elephants survived the Alps passage.


28 posted on 02/18/2018 9:43:31 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: elcid1970

That’s because the bureaucrats wouldn’t let them through that nice tunnel.


29 posted on 02/18/2018 10:06:12 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: jmacusa; BobL

Thanks for the laughs...


30 posted on 02/18/2018 10:13:25 AM PST by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' Grandma's​ - multi issue voterp it)
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To: BenLurkin

Good observation. VDH has an excellent analysis of the battle of Cannae and its aftermath.

Mercenary/non-western armies were often not disciplined enough to go for the kill when spoils were to be had.


31 posted on 02/18/2018 10:21:46 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Jim 0216

“It’s a wonder that Hannibal won what with all the regulations and bureaucracies - worse than the Roman legions.”

I don’t know either way, but the Romans sure did have a good code for highway construction.


32 posted on 02/18/2018 10:36:27 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: redinIllinois

Any time!


33 posted on 02/18/2018 10:37:15 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: BobL
LOL. “Honest to the Gods!’’. They think this is easy being a king and a conqueror!’’ “I tell ya, it ain't the work it's the worry!’’.
34 posted on 02/18/2018 10:42:13 AM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: redinIllinois

You’re welcome. I say if you can’t laugh what can you do?


35 posted on 02/18/2018 10:44:03 AM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: BenLurkin

He could defeat Roman armies. He could not defeat Rome.


36 posted on 02/18/2018 11:09:02 AM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: mairdie

37 posted on 02/18/2018 11:25:48 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: mairdie
traces of horse manure

Proves absolutely nothing. Come up with elephant poop, and they may have an argument.

38 posted on 02/18/2018 11:28:24 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Jim 0216

Or, as in the song Convoy, “ I didn’t have a doggone dime.”


39 posted on 02/18/2018 12:04:45 PM PST by taterjay
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40 posted on 02/19/2018 1:57:32 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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