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These Chinese military innovations threaten U.S. superiority, experts say
NBC ^ | Feb 17 2018, 4:54 am ET | Eric Baculinao

Posted on 02/17/2018 5:06:18 PM PST by cba123

BEIJING — The Chinese New Year began with the traditional lighting of firecrackers on Friday, but the country's military has been working on incendiaries on an entirely different scale.

Over the past year, the nation that invented gunpowder has been rolling out an array of high-tech weapons that some experts say could threaten the global superiority of the United States.

"The U.S. no longer possesses clear military-technical dominance, and China is rapidly emerging as a would-be superpower in science and technology," said Elsa B. Kania, an adjunct fellow at the Center for a New American Security, a Washington think tank.

The Chinese People's Liberation Army "might even cut ahead of the U.S. in new frontiers of military power," she added.

Despite the recent sharp rhetoric from President Donald Trump, analysts say an open conflict between Beijing and Washing is unlikely. Others dismiss the idea that China might soon outpace the U.S. in military power.

"There is serious self-congratulation and boastfulness about China’s real military ability," according to Wu Ge, a military analyst and columnist for China's liberal-leaning Southern Weekly newspaper.

Still, it is clear that significant milestones have been reached by a country that, alongside Russia, is categorized in Trump's national security strategy as a "revisionist power" — a nation seeking to redefine the world along values contrary to America's.

Here are five of China's most eye-grabbing innovations:

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To: Chainmail

Check YOUR Meds..grunt.

Better yet
Use that Zippo you torched brooches
With and turn yourself into a
LawnCandle.
Piss off!


61 posted on 02/18/2018 5:22:44 AM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: cba123

1) Electromagnetic railgun or what appears to be one mounted on a ship - there is no evidence that this equipment is a railgun or if it is works or has been tested. The differences between that and the several US prototypes is that the US has not mounted one on a ship, but have had extensive testing both as hand loaded and as auto loaded.

2) High-tech warships - this may be an advantage but the are not in service and are still in sea trials at best. China’s aircraft carriers are ski-jump which means that the planes have severely limited range and payload - more for fleet defense. They are building a carrier with an electromagnetic launch system like the US Gerald Ford (whose systems still do not work correctly).

Another area the US falls down on is ice breakers - we have only one heavy breaker which is constantly breaking down (there is a medium for the great lakes, and another broken down, inoperable heavy). China is building some now. Russia has over 40 ice breakers of which maybe 10 heavy’s are nuclear powered (heavies can break over 20 feet of ice continuous at speed) More are under construction or will be purchased elsewhere.

3) The J-20 cannot preform as one would expect because the engine it was designed to use exploded and they now use an engine designed for other planes - like having a Corvette with a VW engine under the hood. This plane is designed to go after USAF AWACs and support planes, not for aerial dominance - a job it can no longer perform.

4) Hypersonic glide vehicles - both the US and Russia (presumably) have flown them contrary to the MSN take. The DF21D carrier killer has never been rested on a moving target, let alone one at sea.

5. Artificial Intelligence on subs - 20 year old technology according to some.


62 posted on 02/18/2018 5:33:14 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Chainmail

The ChinComs are not stealing 55% of my income. Gov’t employees in my country are doing the stealing.

If what you guys do is so important and valuable - why do you need to steal the money via involuntary taxes ?


63 posted on 02/18/2018 5:33:37 AM PST by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: JPJones

Since 2013, the company is wholly owned by Comcast, which bought GE’s ownership stake. - Wikipedia


64 posted on 02/18/2018 5:37:33 AM PST by BronzePencil (Liberty's in every blow! Let us do or die!)
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To: cba123

The Chi Coms want to control the Pacific. That shouldn’t even be debated; its a fact.
We are buying their crap by the shipload and paying for their military buildup.
And their people are here stealing all the intellectual property they can find. And working in our companies as green card holders.
We are too trusting of them.


65 posted on 02/18/2018 5:48:41 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: Big Red Badger
"Check YOUR Meds..grunt. Better yet Use that Zippo you torched brooches With and turn yourself into a LawnCandle. Piss off!"

So you're what passes for a "conservative" or a "veteran" (or even a decent human being) these days? More like a Huffington Post Leftie - with a dropout education.

P.S. - if you didn't have huevos to serve where I served, I'd recommend that you just keep hiding under the bed with the rest of you who dodged the hard stuff for the country.

66 posted on 02/18/2018 7:37:10 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: vooch
Oh, Voochie - it's called "supporting your country" and a whole lot better than being involuntarily required to speak Mandarin for your new masters.

55%? You need a better tax service - unless you're living in Sweden or something. The actual tax rate's a lot lower than that and you know it.

67 posted on 02/18/2018 7:40:22 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: factoryrat
All they have to do is pull the plug on imports into the US, and block our exports to asia.

And all we have to do is post three Virginia-class attack submarines at the eastern end of the Straits of Malacca and sink every oil tanker headed to China and in less than a month China runs out of oil. We also sneak the nearest SSGN into the Taiwan Strait and after 50 Blk IV Tomahawks the Three Gorges Dam becomes a memory

68 posted on 02/18/2018 9:20:03 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: Chainmail

P.S.

I Joined the Air Force in 1971.


69 posted on 02/18/2018 10:03:14 AM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Chainmail

55% - that’s what most highly productive Americans pay in total extortions from the gov’t every year. Since I own a small manufacturing business the total gov’t extortions represent about 400% of my personal spending, but that’s way too complex to explain here.

Forced to speak mandarin - LOL there you go again with those 19th C. paranoid delusions. Time to Join the 21st century. To repeat - conquest ain‘t a winning proposition and hasn’t been for over a century. The perfumed princes in the E corridor of the pentagram and the wackos in sandland still haven‘t gotten the memo; but the rest of the world has.

Like DJT said ‚We squandered $6 trillion and only made things worse‘

squander is correct.


70 posted on 02/18/2018 10:14:08 AM PST by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: Big Red Badger
I assume that it wasn't the part of the Air Force involved in the shooting stuff. Otherwise you'd have had a bit more respect for us ground-pounders. We rescued a pilot that was shot down about a kilometer away and got him ahead of the enemy. He was one happy aviator that day.

Both of my Uncles and my father were in the Air Force - they tended to be a bit more realistic about our world than you seem to be.

71 posted on 02/18/2018 10:49:53 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: vooch
Vooch, 'ol buddy - it's still called the "E-ring", not the "corridor". I'm beginning to believe that you haven't been in the Pentagon yet. You should have, since you've invested so much in our defense!

Sure, yeah, there's been a lot of stupid waste. Usually because of interservice competition and because the Pentagon managers are Ivy-league civilian political appointees with zero concept of how combat works (or find the bathroom without help). Then you have the members of Congress who have to divvy things up for their districts - and they usually haven't spent my time in uniform, either.

Lastly, we have General Officers who have very little technical expertise (most Marine generals were Physical Education or Political Science majors in college)and get swayed by fast-talking defense contractors...etc.,etc.

Never said it was efficient or perfect.

Did say that it was necessary, though. The Chinese - and the Russians - and the Islamists DO want to take over and send us all to perdition. What's kept them in place is a belief that it will be too painful to try.

That's why we have to keep working at full tilt to guarantee they keep that sense of awe. Saves a lot of unnecessary killing.

72 posted on 02/18/2018 11:01:45 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: vooch

Of that 55% of your income 53% of it goes to entitlements, the remaining 47% goes to defense and other Constitutional (likely, maybe?) requirements.


73 posted on 02/18/2018 11:17:04 AM PST by Reily
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To: Reily

I think 20% goes to debt service, 40% goes to bloated pensions and OPEB.

one needs to account for all gov’t extractions - federal, state, county, and local; plus a zillion other agencies. look at the fine print of a airline ticket - you get charged a few hundred just to be molested by security theater.

add in sales & property taxes ; don‘t forget to pay for your garage sale permit too.

If people added up how much the gov‘t extorts from them, they‘d be appalled.


74 posted on 02/18/2018 11:49:56 AM PST by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: vooch

Agree!


75 posted on 02/18/2018 12:04:22 PM PST by Reily
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To: BronzePencil

Yeah, you’re right.


76 posted on 02/18/2018 2:04:23 PM PST by JPJones (More tariffs, less income tax.)
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To: JPJones

They’re still garbage.


77 posted on 02/18/2018 4:39:25 PM PST by BronzePencil (Liberty's in every blow! Let us do or die!)
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