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These Chinese military innovations threaten U.S. superiority, experts say
NBC ^ | Feb 17 2018, 4:54 am ET | Eric Baculinao

Posted on 02/17/2018 5:06:18 PM PST by cba123

BEIJING — The Chinese New Year began with the traditional lighting of firecrackers on Friday, but the country's military has been working on incendiaries on an entirely different scale.

Over the past year, the nation that invented gunpowder has been rolling out an array of high-tech weapons that some experts say could threaten the global superiority of the United States.

"The U.S. no longer possesses clear military-technical dominance, and China is rapidly emerging as a would-be superpower in science and technology," said Elsa B. Kania, an adjunct fellow at the Center for a New American Security, a Washington think tank.

The Chinese People's Liberation Army "might even cut ahead of the U.S. in new frontiers of military power," she added.

Despite the recent sharp rhetoric from President Donald Trump, analysts say an open conflict between Beijing and Washing is unlikely. Others dismiss the idea that China might soon outpace the U.S. in military power.

"There is serious self-congratulation and boastfulness about China’s real military ability," according to Wu Ge, a military analyst and columnist for China's liberal-leaning Southern Weekly newspaper.

Still, it is clear that significant milestones have been reached by a country that, alongside Russia, is categorized in Trump's national security strategy as a "revisionist power" — a nation seeking to redefine the world along values contrary to America's.

Here are five of China's most eye-grabbing innovations:

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: america; china; cnas; trade
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To: Chainmail

chain

dude bet I pay about 10x US taxes than you do :)

honestly - I understand how you can get caught up in the Geopoltical foolishness thinking it’s the 1890s and rehashing Alfred Mahan thinking it’s sophisticated theory.

But 1) bankrupting a nation to defend it ain’t a winning combo. The Pentagon is bankrupting the US.

and 2) expanding the budget of a consistently failing & incompent organization is throwing good money after bad. The Pentagon hasn’t won a war since April 8th 1945.

finally 3) the only people who haven’t got the memo that violent conquest is a losing game in the 21C reside in some dirtball mud shack in Mesopotamia and the E corridor of the Pentagon

Those are the Grand Strategic Facts.

Going all chicken little about the ChinComs is simply a distraction.


41 posted on 02/17/2018 7:16:03 PM PST by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: cba123

And they don’t have to be able to match us in every theatre. They just need to make it too costly for us to fight them in the theatre they select.


42 posted on 02/17/2018 7:25:35 PM PST by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: JustaTech

No.

That part (in every theatre) comes later...

Quicker than most believe, I suspect.

The Chinese are becoming nationalistic and military. They cheer for their country as a military power.

(I just saw it myself, last week)

We need to radically adjust course, on China. We need to strongly refocus on rebuilding America again.

And we NEED to bring down our huge trade deficit.


43 posted on 02/17/2018 7:35:17 PM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123
So mysterious, the way it looks soooo much like our C-17, eh..?

Gosh, I wonder how they did THAT.

44 posted on 02/17/2018 7:38:58 PM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin
Chinese CSK002

Chinese copy of our Humvee

45 posted on 02/17/2018 7:42:06 PM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin
China drone "Sharp Sword", copy of X-47


46 posted on 02/17/2018 7:43:57 PM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin
Recognize THIS..?

The Chinese J-31..! SURPRISE..!!!

47 posted on 02/17/2018 7:49:29 PM PST by gaijin
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To: cba123

No one said the Chinese or Russians were dumb.


48 posted on 02/17/2018 7:49:30 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Give me the liberty to take care of my own security..........)
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To: gaijin

Great summary:

https://news.usni.org/2015/10/27/chinas-military-built-with-cloned-weapons


49 posted on 02/17/2018 7:49:53 PM PST by gaijin
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To: JPJones

The GE CEO was a huge Obunga booster IIRC.....


50 posted on 02/17/2018 7:50:44 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Give me the liberty to take care of my own security..........)
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To: cba123

The Chinese don’t have to go through the DOD material release cycle. 3 years of bribing (ok paid review) cycle to get all the statements to release products to solders. No joke. It’s 30+ seperate reviews where each board requires money, time and change impacts. Many changes are opposite of each other and the military requirement.

Please tel me how a bomb and missiles can be completely safe? Can’t!


51 posted on 02/17/2018 7:59:45 PM PST by wgmalabama (The government murdered Robert LaVoy Finicum - what makes you think you are not next?)
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To: Chainmail

Yeah...
Your right..
Lots of skirmishes and more.


52 posted on 02/17/2018 7:59:47 PM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: cba123

“Experts say” is your tip-off that this story is a scam. Probably inserted by a defense contractor.


53 posted on 02/18/2018 12:18:45 AM PST by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 0)
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To: Big Red Badger
Those "skirmishes" cost us a lot of lives and would have cost more if we hadn't faced them down.

By the way, it's "you're right" not "your right". I am going to venture the guess that you come from some rural public school system and never graced a uniform.

54 posted on 02/18/2018 3:16:24 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: vooch
Voochie

Thank you for your taxes.

Alfred Thayer Mahan is dead but his ghost still inhabits the Straits of Malacca and other Sea Lanes of Communication. You are correct that it isn't the 1890s: now even squirrelly little hellholes like North Korea and Iran can threaten to kill millions of us within a half hour and short of direct invasion, we can't do anything except try to beat them technologically and hope for the best.

We aren't bankrupted and we are still independent and alive. Costs money to get that done. You and others on this thread believe that our leaders are doing it wastefully. OK, fine: get into the fray and see if you can do it better - but a world-spanning militarized China is a serious threat. They and other dictatorships can't exist in a world where a free country gives the better example - so they prepare to defeat us. Open your eyes and watch. What are the Chinese doing with a naval base in Djibouti, within striking range of the Persian Gulf?

Isolationism and massive welfare programs (I assume that you're a liberal) seem awfully attractive but it's too late for that anymore.

P.S.; it's the "E-Ring" of the Pentagon.

55 posted on 02/18/2018 3:30:56 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

Wrong on both accounts,pal.


56 posted on 02/18/2018 4:01:20 AM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Big Red Badger
"Wrong on both accounts,pal"

Really? When and with whom did you serve? How did you miss learning anything from your experience?

57 posted on 02/18/2018 4:39:47 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

I made a general statement on China.
You called me on it.
I agreed with you.
Now You attack My educational
And Military accomplishments.
Go pick a fight some place else,
Miserable bastard!


58 posted on 02/18/2018 4:50:13 AM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Big Red Badger
"To add ... China’s stayed out of 2 world wars why would they want to start one now?"

A general false and misleading statement - so you figured that nobody should respond? Sorry, Bub - but nothing you have written suggests either service or advanced education.

If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen, Granny

59 posted on 02/18/2018 5:08:04 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Teacher317

The list of innovations from China is long and hardly a rarity.

Paper making, gunpowder, the compass, printing press are among their major inventions; also see a longer list in mechanics, hydraulics and mathematics applied to horology, metallurgy, astronomy, agriculture, engineering, music theory, craftsmanship, naval architecture and warfare.

See this List of Chinese inventions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions

See the more details in Robert Temple’s book “The Genius of China”. Includes the claim that the Chinese had the first powered flight.

That they copy others ideas - so what so does every country that can. So do we. Big deal.


60 posted on 02/18/2018 5:13:19 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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