Posted on 02/15/2018 6:02:46 AM PST by Simon Green
The mother should have taken extra precautions to make sure her son had tools to handle the flight so as not to bother others around them. I feel sad for the boy who most definitely has some internal issues.
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I wonder what would happen if she read him a story?
My child cried for 2 hours from PA to VA in a carseat he did not want to be in . He’s a perfectly normal adult now, with a great job, raising a family. 30 mins only indicates a very strong will.
There are adults who have that trouble as well but they are able to deal with it.Toddlers can’t.
Except the mother was overheard at the beginning of the flight saying her child had behavioral problems.
However, if you are so selfish and so intolerant of other people and the problems they may be facing that you can't handle a few hours in an airplane with a crying baby then I don't really have any more to say to you than "Have a Nice Day".
Someone may have mentioned middle ear infections. Sometimes kids have them with no temp, too. And they are excuciating when flying.
I know this from experience. Personal experience and from my kids.
You missed the post of my post.
It isn’t all about you.
Inflicting screaming kids on a plane load of passengers is selfish.
There is a world of difference between a quick cry due to inner-ear pressure change and an endless ear-splitting and annoying brat.
Public accommodation is tolerated but a monster is not.
Spend nearly 20k on a first class international flight then have a screeching brat sit next to or near you. If that happens to you I am sure you would be completely different in your “tough, I don’t know them so who cares” attitude.
You pay for first class or business for a reason, and an endlessly screaming brat robs you of the very reason you spent the bucks. How about reimbursing everyone for the cost of their ticket, after all, it is your child that, in effect, intrudes on your space.
I am not paying for the privilege of listening to your child scream and cry.
Airlines do not help the situation.
Have a nice day, if that is possible.
I think we are talking past each other - you obviously made an effort to mitigate a possible mid-flight meltdown. That is excellent. Can’t control everything but you tried.
It was the I don’t care about these people remark that was off-putting.
There are too many travelers that make no effort and not a care if their child takes over the cabin. You are not one of those.
I can respect the fact that you tried and that is rare. If I saw you trying in-flight I would accept that. It is the ones who act that just because they are on a flight they do not care about the screaming child of theirs — and those are horrible people.
We had two of them in our small church. Pastor’s grandbabies; hence, nothing was ever done to calm or soothe them, give them a book or a pacifier or a crayon, much less take them out of the sanctuary to the quiet room with closed-circuit TV so the parent doesn’t have to miss anything. Mother and Grandmother sit there grandly, doing nothing, while Darling 1 and Adorable 2 shriek during the prayers, the sermon, the communion. Running up and down the aisle, up onto the altar platform, feet on the communion kneelers.
They are probably still there, still doing their thing. I am not. I found a new church.
Actually, you can. It's how most kids were raised before Spock, even if they had a disability.
Dad, have you looked into a complete allergy diagnosis? Some of the food allergies greatly affect behavior, as do some of the environmental substances. Not saying it is THE answer, but it might be part of an answer. Worked for our family when we had a hyperactive one. One of the culprits was milk!
“Actually, you can. “
No no no.. I’m talking about things like inner ear issues, gastrointestinal issues.. All sorts of things affect kids and they don’t communicate discomfort like an adult.
Why is everyone so salty on the topic of struggling kids ?!
I believe God’s word on raising children, you believe the anti God teachings of the secular world, we will never agree and there is NO common ground.
What does God say about compassion? Put yourself in the mother's shoes with a child who has minimal control over his nervous system. I certainly hope you are not judged as you judge.
Matthew 7:1-3 King James Version (KJV) 7 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
I think many of us who were raised under the old-fashioned values (of parents having legitimate authority and responsibility to teach children to behave) are now, in our older years, especially offended by the lax and permissive post-Youth Rebellion childrearing around us. You can't have a meal in a restaurant or sit quietly in church any more; disruptions by physiologically normal children due to their parents' indifference to discipline not only spoil many events, but are also much harder on people who were raised with discipline. It really chafes. Hence, you are hearing skepticism as to whether the child on the airplane really is afflicted by a disorder or is rather just another sadly neglected grandchild of hippie liberal upbringing.
What you said and the way you said it conveys both your ability to express your feelings on the topic, AND be civil.
So many people these days are just saying “Beat that kid” and that sort of response is both low-brow and worrisome.
If I take a parking spot and someone says “That dude deserves to die” that’s one adult waxing violent about another adult. But a to say things like this about a kid ?
I mean what happened ?!
I share your distress over what has happened.
gee, if only she had aborted him, or left him to be raised by a mental institution....
on planes they have ear plugs if you need them people...that and close your eyes and thank God that you have normal children.
Good thing the Kid wasn’t Farting.
They would have diverted the Flight to the nearest Airport.
I see this with moms constantly
My 16 month old toddler grandson Is permanently attached to my daughters hip
I’m like honey you can put him down
Crying eyes and scared looks in eyes and reaching out with grabby hand motions whimpering momma momma and she scoops him right up every time then wonders why won’t he quit crying when he doesn’t get his way
She breaks weak every time
I’m hoping she’ll learn ..
You train them
They stil love you and it’s highly unlikely they will cry to death in their crib
Besides by now you know hungry cry from angry cry from wet diaper cry and sick whimper cry
Or you should
Moms have been soft since boomers started having kids I think.....maybe even the tween wars moms when Spock first polluted brains
My mom wasn’t and my grand moms sure weren’t
I wasn’t but my wife is
Putty and indulgent
True
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