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To: Lurkinanloomin

Exactly.

That needs to be repeated and emphasized. And the criminal charges need to extend all the way to the top. This will NOT be over if it is limited to just a few FBI/DOJ employees. As far as I’m concerned Strzok and Page are minor players in this criminal enterprise.


39 posted on 02/09/2018 9:16:12 AM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: generally; Lurkinanloomin
The largest scandal ever was when all of our appointed and elected officials let a self admitted British subject into the office of the President when he was ineligible.

The Kenyanesian Usurpation encompasses MANY scandals, but it was all avoidable if the Constitution had been upheld.

BOTH parties colluded to violate the Constitution.


That needs to be repeated and emphasized. And the criminal charges need to extend all the way to the top.

I tend to agree—although I guess I'm not 100% on my conviction that there was literal collusion by both parties. One of the parties—the GOP, of course—may have just been too cowardly to act, or too unsure, or convinced that it would have been futile to oppose.

In any event, that crime can't be prosecuted until a lot of other ones are exposed and prosecuted first. It might very well be that an incremental process could actually take us to that point, but some (such as the President, even)—in order to spare the nation something like a civil war, perhaps—may decide to go ahead and let the issue die, as far as getting a formal conviction. Either way, it will ultimately be a cautionary tale.

I think we're headed for major unrest, as one group of people—who have their hearts and minds invested in a worldview which is simply not compatible with objective reality—come to that realization, and refuse to accept the consequences of their delusions.

In contrast, if these criminals aren't held accountable—because of the cost that would be incurred as far as unrest, as "inconvenient truths" are exposed in all their ugliness—then the sh-t is really going to hit the fan—because it must, if we're going to preserve the Republic and uphold the Constitution.

Only one of these two mutually incompatible versions of reality will survive this period of American history, and the losing side will not go quietly. I think I see the trend, and I'm encouraged by it, but I'm not 100% convinced that Justice will prevail. And if it doesn't, the America we once knew will have ceased to exist.

As for those of you who seek anything resembling instant gratification, prepare to be disappointed. You'd better fasten your seatbelts, because this is going to be the longest, most excruciatingly painful political process in our entire history. The only question that remains is how costly it will be. I fear that for Justice to prevail, the cost in Blood and Treasure will be exceedingly high.

I close with these words from Thomas Paine in The American Crisis—an apropos label for these times:

"THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated."

77 posted on 02/09/2018 10:04:38 AM PST by sargon ("If the President doesn't drain the Swamp, the Swamp will drain the President.")
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